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Joe Wilcox: Here’s the answer to your jackass question about Steve Jobs

Daniel Eran Dilger

Dear Joe Wilcox, I can’t help but notice that you failed to understand why Steve Jobs directed comments toward Apple’s two closest competitors, RIM and Android, during his company’s conference call with analysts.
The above sentence seems to answer itself in a rather obvious sort of way, but I’ll clarify this to you further because it seems you have no ability to grasp the obvious.

What is Steve Jobs so afraid of? | Betanews

First off, you might want to research whether large companies in the lead have ever made comments about their competitors. For example, Adobe disparaging Apple. Microsoft disparaging Apple. Nokia disparaging Apple. Motorola disparaging Apple. RIM disparaging Apple. Google disparaging Apple at length at its I/O conference.

Did you feign ignorance about why these companies were talking smack about their competitor to their audience of developers, investors, or often the general public? Let me assure you that companies, like people, assert confidence in their own plans in part by discounting what their competitors are doing.

This is pretty normal behavior, even if it doesn’t happen a lot at Apple. In fact, the only times Jobs makes a punch at competitors seems to be when he feels the media is wildly distorting reality in a way he must straighten out with some pointed dissertation of facts. Thoughts on Music, Thoughts on Flash, and so on. Do you also think Jobs is afraid of DRM and Flash?

Now let’s fact check some Wilcox

“Investors punished Apple for its gangbusters quarter,” Wilcox writes. No actually, they didn’t. They ramped Apple’s stock up from $245 last month to todays $309. Hardly punishment. The stock hit a peak before the conference call of $318, followed by rampant profit taking. That’s not punishment, that’s rolling in money appreciatively. Stop passively lying about how investors are spooked about Apple’s “falling margins,” because even you know that’s wrong.

You can also drop the charade about Jobs’ “unnerving” comments that you decided were “out of place” and “out of control.” Have you never before heard a CEO explain why he believes his own company will continue to succeed and why he believes competitors are on the wrong track?

Also, try to keep in mind that this wasn’t bravado directed at customers in a Apple.com blog post; it was comments to analysts who are desperate for insight into the direction of Apple and how the company plans to compete against its peers. It was exactly what this limited audience was expecting to hear.

Calling Jobs’ comments “cheap shots,” is among the most pandering, ignorant ridiculousness you’ve ever pooped out into your Betanews column, and that’s saying a lot.

Adding that analysts were upset, distracted and/or confused about what to ask after Jobs laid out answers in advance to much of what they were interested in knowing about Apple is also rather embarrassing for you. Suggesting that Jobs’ comments were based on fear is equally as devious and/or ignorant.

Really, it’s hard to grasp whether you are playing the role of Paul Thurrott in trying to insist that black is white, or in pretending to be Rob Enderle, who doesn’t really understand the difference between black or white but has strong convictions when speaking about them as an authority anyway.

Are you a phony disingenuous shill, or are you just a self important ignorant idiot shill? Because nothing you write suggests that you are seeking to find legitimate answers, or that you are honestly attempting to present what you really believe to be the case, unless of course you really are as stupid as all that.

Jobs on Google

When Jobs takes Google down a peg for bragging about Android activations (rather than sales, because there are no convenient numbers of collective Android sales) by comparing Apple’s own activations, it’s not out of fear that Google is catching up. It’s to correct misinformation spun by pundits like you, who purposely confuse sales of cheap Android placeholders that Verizon is giving away (and that have replaced stuff like LG’s embedded phones) with premium smartphones that consumers are actually seeking out and voting for with their dollars. Internationally, not just at Verizon.

You quibble that Apple’s iOS devices include MP3 players and tablets, while “nearly all Androids are phones; for now.” What does that mean, that Android hasn’t been adopted for anything else out of a collective sneak attack that will happen real soon now? Please explain why nobody has an Android-based iPod touch competitor that is making headlines (or selling in significant numbers), or why all the Android tablets haven’t been able to get past the talk stage this entire year.

Instead, you complain that “Jobs’ unnecessary assertion [of Android’s fragmentation] seemingly reflects his frustration and fear Android will win the smartphone wars.” Does it really? Or do you really even think it does? I don’t believe for a second you think that. I think that’s the only possible negative spin you could come up with on a deadline.

Jobs is pointing out the obvious. Neither before nor after he said this has the idea that Android’s platform is suffering from fragmentation (in both hardware and software, and from the differing goals of hardware makers, software developers, and carriers) ever been controversial or even rationally challenged by anyone beyond the most blindly devoted fan-sites.

Jobs isn’t expressing fear, he’s expressing confidence. And not just a confident expression of credulity that Apple will prevail in the sense that RIM and Microsoft and Google exude, but a rational confidence shored up by facts. When Jobs says “We are confident that [integrated] will triumph over Google’s fragmented approach, no matter how many times Google tries to characterize it as open,” it’s not an expression of panic.

Tablets are not smartphones, Joe

Also, try to pay attention. When Jobs commented that a 7 inch tablet can’t deliver a differentiated experience that’s better and more sophisticated than the smartphone everyone who owns a tablet already has, and your response is that “I laughed. By that reasoning, iPhone’s 3.5-inch display is too small to create compelling apps, too,” well it’s just hard to take you seriously because that’s an insanely foolish comment to make.

Jobs is saying that everyone has a 3.5 inch smartphone, and so a 7 inch tablet doesn’t offer enough extra screen real-estate to justify a purchase; too much overlap. But a 10 inch iPad, at least in Jobs’ opinion, can deliver something that’s different enough to offer a separate class of apps and functionality, while also being differentiated from a full sized laptop. This isn’t a new idea, it’s how Jobs launched the iPad after observing the failure of Microsoft and others to ever deliver a popular handheld tablet device.

Look at an iPad and perhaps you’ll discover that it’s not just a big iPod touch but rather a device that does a lot you simply can’t do on a smaller screen. That’s why app developers are customizing apps for the iPad to take advantage of this very different form factor, rather than just blowing their existing apps up a bit to fit the larger screen.

You might also look at the increased resolution of iPhone 4 and deduce that all those extra pixels are only sharpening things up; they are not delivering a bigger, differentiated user interface. The buttons are the same size. So resolution is independent of physical size, and the physical size of a display, not the resolution, is what determines what amount of user interface you can get into the screen and still use it with your finger.

7 inch shenanigans

This is also not an opinion that anyone is credibly challenging. When RIM scrambled to justify why it is launching a 7 inch tablet, it didn’t cite its own research that such a tablet was exactly what consumers or businesses wanted or needed, it just distracted with catty comments about how “customers are tired of Apple telling them what to think.” Now that’s panic talk: no facts, all emotion.

Jobs just revealed why RIM and Android tablets are 7 inches; it’s not innovation, it’s an effort to be cheap so they can compete against Apple’s economies of scale. They can’t afford to build 10 inch tablets at the price points Apple is offering the iPad.

RIM is scared that Jobs’ comments might cause analysts to critically examine the viability of the “PlayBook” before it ever hits the market, and allow businesses to confidently purchase iPads now rather than waiting to see if a slower, smaller device from RIM (or one running Android) — that costs just as much — is worth delaying any purchasing decisions.

RIM and Google can only hope that the market waits for them to catch up, but with the lead the iPad already has, and Jobs’ expressed insight into why Apple isn’t making the same decisions that RIM and Google’s hardware partners are, there’s even less reason for anyone to wait and see if RIM and/or Android can make a better fake-iPad than they can fake-iPhones. Because their fake-iPhones aren’t all that spectacular.

And Wilcox, if you really question Jobs’ understanding of what its like to try selling a 7 inch tablet, you might want to dial your thinking cap back to 1998, when Jobs was tasked with trying to sell the Newton MessagePad. Its screen was 6.5 inches diagonally. It wan’t a phone, wasn’t a desktop, but still didn’t really sell. Today, Apple can’t make the 10 inch iPad fast enough to meet demand.

Have somebody help you do the math.

  • stormj

    Wow. Wilcox has just leapfrogged investments past law as things tech pundits are bad at but pretend to understand.

  • brew57

    Boy, it is getting hot in here…

    I found Steve’s speech on the call uncharacteristically defensive, aiming at competition like that out of the bat without being prompted to do so.

    While he made excellent points, the speech seemed awkward for the conference call venue. Picking on RIM was also odd.

  • gus2000

    “Calling Jobs’ comments “cheap shots,” is among the most pandering, ignorant ridiculousness you’ve ever pooped out into your Betanews column, and that’s saying a lot.”

    Oh snap

  • KenC

    Wilcox seems lucid about 80% of the time, and then he does some wacky interpretation where you wonder if he is really that stupid or is he just trying to get hits. The last time he did this was about Apple’s GAAP vs non-GAAP. He had some crazy Enronian interpretation of Apple’s non-GAAP figures. Just weird, cause I know he’s not that stupid. Enderle, yeah, but I can’t imagine there are two people in this world that stupid.

  • http://scottworldblog.wordpress.com scotty321

    Nice job, Daniel!!

    Thank you for rightfully pointing out war a COMPLETE JACK ASS Joe Wilcox is!!

    People like Joe Wilcox should be banned from ever opening their mouths… someone should put industrial strength staples through his lips, and duct tape on his fingers.

  • harrywolf

    Apple is the industry LEADER. Worth $70 billion MORE than M$oft. When Steve Jobs takes a few potshots, its:

    (a) Kind of overdue – Apple have put up with a lot of ignorant crap lately,

    (b) He is doing it because they are now the second biggest company in the US, after Exxon, and it aint bragging if you can back it up, (they can)

    (c) He is telling potential and existing customers that they should not fall for the old M$oft trick of announcing without shipping, like RIM’s amazing new 7″ ‘playbook’, which doesnt actually exist….

    He isnt being defensive, he is just feeling good and telling it like it IS.
    I loved it!
    BTW, glad you are back Daniel, and hitting as hard and straight as ever – you and Jobs are cut from the same cloth!

  • harrywolf

    Just read the Wilcox article. The guy spells ‘hoard’ as in holding a large pile of cash, as ‘horde’ as in a bunch of angry rebels with big swords and spears attacking you.

    Makes it hard to accept his somewhat odd assertions, especially about shares dropping when its quite obviously profit taking on the fastest growing shares on the market.

  • http://www.isights.org/ whmlco

    Actually, I think Apple should do a 7″ tablet. It would make a much better ebook reader than a Touch, in a smaller and much more portable form factor than an iPad.

    Apple makes 13 “notebooks, 15″ notebooks, and 17” notebooks, do they not? One size doesn’t fit all.

    Let the user decide what’s best for him.

  • Dafydd Williams

    If you asked the user what was best for him, he’d tell you “a faster horse”.

  • tundraboy

    I loved it when Jobs predicted that the 7″ tablets will be gone in a year, leaving early adopters stranded with orphaned product. That throwaway line was definitely calculated to make early adopters take a wait-and-see stance. RIM, Samsung, and other 7″ tableteers are cursing Jobs in their sleep right now.

  • broadbean

    I wouldn’t mind a smaller iPad for the kids in the family. If you’re not supporting multiple users on the iPad, it follows you’ll need more than one per household. To some of those members, 7-inches is HUGE and not as HEAVY as daddy’s or mummy’s 700g iPad.

  • John E

    yeah, Jobs was right, and yes, he shouldn’t hold back from setting the record straight. but his remarks also included some good ol’ CEO trash talking, and calling 7″ tabs “DOA” certainly qualifies as FUD. probably will be very effective too in scaring buyers away from the Galaxy.

  • John E

    btw, no one has pointed out yet i’ve seen, but when you do the math from yesterday’s numbers, Apple sold about 7 million iPod touch last quarter. the touch is really a mini tablet, so when you add its sales to 4 million iPads, that is 11 million tablets Apple sold last quarter. and holiday quarter sales of these Apple gadgets are always 2X, or even 3X the previous one. so …

  • John E

    question: Wilcox makes a big fuss that Apple’s sales figures include products “shipped” to resellers (so “sold” at wholesale?) but not actually sold to consumers. does anyone know what the facts of this definition are?

    but of course the good majority of Apple iPhone/iPad sales are direct from its Apple Store or retail stores. in which case the numbers are definitely consumer purchases. he didn’t bother to mention this …

  • cjlacz

    Jobs wasn’t saying that 7″ tables are going to gone in a year aren’t calculated to make people wait on those tablets. He truly believes these devices aren’t going to succeed. He stated his reason’s clearly. The elements have to be a certain minimum size for a touch interface and there isn’t enough space for developers to create the apps they want. It wouldn’t be different enough from a pocket device to justify the extra development cost. Apple’s done a lot of R&D and this is what they’ve found.

    I’ve been doing some interface design work lately and I’m with Steve on this too. I’ll take Apple’s research over RIM’s dream of 7″ tablet success.

    Grouping the iPod touch and iPad together is also mistake. They look similar and use similar technology, but almost anyone who owns one will tell you they are very different devices.

  • gslusher

    Re: 7″ tablets vs the iPad

    Look at the differences. As Daniel pointed out, it’s not the resolution but the physical size that’s important. Consider just how the iPad is intended to be used. It can be held like a book, rested in one’s lap like a book, set on a desk or table, propped up on a stand, etc. IOW, the design had to consider that it would be used at the same distance as a hardbound book–NOT up close like a smartphone.

    1. Touch interface elements: There is a minimum spacing & size where they can be useful. A smaller screen is going to have to have fewer and/or more crowded (and thus harder to use) elements. See the difference between the iPhone and the iPad.

    2. Text: If viewed at the same distance, a smaller screen will have to have less text and/or smaller characters. If the same number of pixels were to be used for each character, the 7″ screen text compared to the iPad text would be like 8.5 pt vs 12 pt. Now, one can mitigate that (to an extent) by holding the 7″ screen closer, but that would mean holding it all the time, rather than setting it down and viewing it at a normal reading distance. One could bend over one that’s sitting on a desk or table. I have a Palm TX. To use it on a table, I have to bend over to get close enough. (The screen is about the same size as the original iPhone’s.) Neither holding it up nor bending over it would be comfortable for a long time.

    3. Photos: Most point-and-shoot cameras use a 4:3 aspect ratio. The iPad is 4:3 (1024×768). The 7″ screens like the Galaxy are 1024×600. A photo displayed on a 7″ screen MUST be 1) shown at 800×600, a lot smaller and less detailed; 2) cropped off at the top and bottom; or 3) squished, distorting the image. (I’d expect #1.) That will be a less satisfying experience for the user. (Those of us who use DSLRs, with an aspect ratio of 3:2, would likely see our photos at 900×600 on the 7″ screen, 1020×680 on the iPad.) If you want to see the difference, check out a 7″ digital picture frame vs a 10″ model.

    4. Video: Neither screen has the resolution to show 720p natively (1280×720). 16:9 video could be a max of 1024×576. (The Galaxy’s “1080p-native” video player is pretty much irrelevant, partly because the screen is way too small to show any difference between 1080p and 720p and partly because streaming video and purchased/rented movies are 720p, as are most HD broadcasts.) However, check Consumer Reports’ ratings of portable/personal DVD players. Every one of their top-rated models has a 8.5-9″ screen. That size is much better for viewing at a “normal” distance than a 7″ screen.

    5. Magazines/Newspapers: Not only is the 7″ screen physically smaller, but it has fewer pixels: it’s 600 pixels wide, vs 768 for the iPad. That would mean that a magazine or newspaper 1) would have to be formatted differently for the two screen sizes, which would cost more; 2) would be formatted at 600 pixels wide for all devices, which would be a waste of space on the iPad; 3) would be scaled down for the 7″ screen, which would make the text fuzzy, among other things; 4) would require the 7″ screen user to scroll right and left all the time (truly ridiculous); or 5) would be formatted for the iPad, ignoring the 7″ screen. I’d vote for #5, until if/when there are several million 7″ screen tablets in use.

    Also consider how someone is going to carry a tablet. A 7″ tablet won’t fit into most pockets. The Galaxy is 190 x 120.45 x 12 mm, or 7.5 x 4.74 x 0.47 inches, for those of us too old/parochial to have a native “feel” for metric dimensions. Draw the footprint on a piece of cardboard and cut it out. See what it fits into. (Take into account that it will probably be in a case that will make it bigger.) Does it fit into any pocket you have, other than cargo pants or a jacket? Does it fit into your purse (women or men!)? No? Then, it’s going to be in your briefcase/attache case/shoulder bag or carried in your hands–the SAME AS the iPad. The smaller size has NO advantage, but has all the disadvantages above.

  • LuisDias

    I really don’t understand how these “pundits” can be so utterly stupid. It’s like the questioners on the conference who repeatedly made the same questions and it was clear on their voice that they didn’t understand one bit of Jobs’ answers at all. These people are completely misunderstanding Apple.

    Lyons made a “satire” the other day about the strategy of Apple. People laughed at it, and it was amazing, because it was right on the money, that is, it was exactly how Apple is winning the game. So where’s the satire? The fact that some text like that is found to be “funny” only sheds light on how these people are still not getting it. They are stupid, and obsolete. Just retire already.

  • berult

    At half a pound lighter no one would dwell on the size factor; light and sturdy, comprehensive and friendly, iPad vs 2.0 shall swell the 7″ dimwit dwarves. You cut down your own size factor by force feeding it to your competition.

    And Google’s lockstep punditry will no doubt notice then that iPad’s “feel good” effect is achieved by cheats and pure Jobsian trickery, and still no Flash… Woops, sorry that was a typo…

  • JPTJr


    All excellent points on the 7″ that Jobs didn’t address. Leaving aside the Galaxy Tab for a moment, the only way the PlayBook sells will be through corporate accounts where the IT department adopts the comfortable / familiar RIM name that will be easy to integrate in existing systems. In fact, that’s what RIM is counting on, and that’s why they pushed out the vaporware presentation. I have no doubt that this will work on some level.

    As Jobs / Cooke said, the rapid corporate adoption of the iPad has been a surprise. They’re not going after this market, while it has been RIM’s core business. Your and Jobs’ points are directed primarily at the consumer – that’s where the big numbers are anyway.

  • JPTJr

    BTW – my favorite rebuttle to Jim Balsillie from a poster named Menow on MacDailyNews:

    I am tired of companies I hate telling me what I am tired of.

  • http://madhatter.ca The Mad Hatter

    The current IPad is an interesting size. While I would have preferred something larger, larger means more weight, and less portability. I also would have preferred something smaller, but then you run into issues with the interface, like you have with the IPhone, if you have large hands.

    So while the current IPad is a weird size, it’s also probably closer to the right size, that a 7 inch tablet.

    What’s really amusing though is that Microsoft pushed tablets for years, and hardly any sold. Apple comes from nowhere (no market penetration) and pretty well takes over the market, while at the same time eating up most of the netbook market.

    Microsoft is hurting right now. Their market penetration in phones and tablets is very low. In effect, they’ve lost all relevance in those two form factors. Loss of relevance in those two form factors will have a negative impact on their relevance to the desktop form factor as well, which you can see by walking past any Apple store.

    Current Apple users are very unlikely to switch to Windows. If they decide to look at options, they are more likely to look at BSD or Linux in my opinion. Who wants to go back to viral hell?

  • bullhead

    Joe Wilcox is just a clueless Microsoft drone. I stopped going to betanews long ago because his posts are beyond absurd.

  • http://themacadvocate.com TheMacAdvocate

    Joe Wilcox is a posterboy for internet economy reform. His “insights” combined with his horrible grammar and diction, actually sap readers’ intelligence on issues, which is perhaps what he’s angling for. They’re based entirely on generating controversy, facts be damned.

    I appreciate your continuing to providing the public service of calling these guys out. They’re some of my favorite articles. I do miss some of the photoshopping of days past, however. Maybe the next time Thurrott opens his ballwasher?

  • Mark Hernandez

    I don’t understand why you guys bother responding to people like Joe Wilcox, Dan Lyons, Scott Moritz, Rob Enderle, Don Reisinger and sometimes Michael Arrington, and others.

    THE ARE ENTERTAINERS, not pundits.

    They do this on purpose to tweak people’s noses and increase page views. It’s the classic “by responding you are just encouraging them” game that has no resolution.

    They don’t care that they seem foolish, or tarnish the reputation of their host site, because they don’t care about your respect. Their game is different, and they feel they win if we respond!

  • SkyTree

    Regarding the seven-incher, I suspect that if Steve Jobs had stood up in 2007 and showed off an iPhone that was 3 times the size of any mobile phone or iPod in existence he would have been laughed off the stage.

    Similarly, presenting the iPad as “halfway” between an iPhone and a MacBook would have been silly if it was really only a slightly bigger iPod, as seven inches would have been.

    More importantly, and I have no way of knowing this, Apple has evaluated working prototypes of both the 7-incher and the 10-incher and possibly other sizes, and Steve Jobs knew what he was talking about when he said 7 inches is DOA.

  • http://themacadvocate.com TheMacAdvocate

    @Mark Hernandez
    I understand your point, but I respectfully disagree for 2 reasons. First, many people who read these jokers out of context may take their versions as fact. Although shocking eyeballs with half-truths are the entirety of their revenue model, without people like Dan calling them out, the record runs the risk of not being set straight.

    Secondly, these kind of refutations are a blast to read and fun to write. My less classy versions of Dan’s analyst dressdowns are some of the most fun I have at a keyboard.

  • Mark Hernandez

    @TheMacAdvocate. I think we agree with each other. Here’s more refinement of what we’re saying…

    Christine McDonnell’s debate last night in which she thought she was calling out her opponent by asking him “where in the Constitution does it mention the separation of church and state” is a perfect example of this. The audience gasped because they couldn’t believe she seemed so clueless about the Constitution, but Christine thought she was nailing her opponent and took the gasps as affirmation of what she was saying, instead of the disbelief that she was so naive.

    She doesn’t care if she was wrong, and to the people she appeals to, they heard her as being right, and heard the gasps the same way she did. And even so, her followers will see any ridicule of her to be her “badge of courage” as Rachel Maddow put it. Give ’em hell, Christine! They don’t care about the details.

    We’re talking about the BUBBLE that any “leaders and their followers” live in, and it’s not important that their followers know any of the facts. Their followers will believe them, and in them regardless.

    People stay in their bubbles (even when they’re temporarily inside someone else’s bubble). Joe Wilcox’s readers will NOT be reading Dan’s article above. Likewise, only the people who agree with Dan will be reading Dan.

    It’s the same “Fox News” thing with Bill O’Reilly and Glenn Beck. Their viewers do not watch Jon Stewart or Rachel Maddow to get the other side of the story and then sort it out intellectually.

    The only way Dan’s efforts would be effective is if Joe Wilcox were to write that, well, Dan Eran Dilger was actually right about this or that. And that’s never going to happen.

    It’s the *BUBBLES* that people live in which have to be burst and blended before any of this is going to get better, whether it’s tech or politics. Calling out the errors in someone else’s bubble is not enough, and never will be.

    But I agree with you 100% that we MUST TRY ANYWAY.

    And often it falls to powerful people who can effectively deal with misinformation, and not by directly confronting it, but rather by pulling the rug out from under it by changing the conversation, like what Steve Jobs did with “antennagate,” (all phones have problems when you hold them a certain way) and when he recently said that it’s not “open vs. closed that matters, it’s fragmented vs. integrated.”

    Even though what we are saying here is SO TRUE, only 5 people are reading it and agreeing with it, and a better world this does not make, unfortunately. (But I wrote this comment anyway. :-)

  • bregalad

    I agree with gslusher that the 7″ tablet has no real advantages over a 9.7″ one and lots of disadvantages. If there’s to be a third size it must be able to differentiate itself from both smartphones and tablets.

    To me the only size that makes sense is one that offers a larger screen than a typical smartphone, but still fits into many pockets.

    I’ve done the draw it on cardboard and cut it out thing. An iPhone with a 5.5″ screen would be exactly the same width as my wallet and substantially thinner. I have no trouble getting that in my pocket every day. It would be taller than my wallet and thus not suitable for all pockets, but it could be carried that way whereas the iPad cannot.

    Now I realize that this iNotePad wouldn’t have a UI that’s as rich as the iPad, but it could still offer a lot more than a 3.5″ screen can. If nothing else the endless game of scrolling, pinching and zooming would be dramatically reduced and I’d pay for that. The less time I have to spend touching the screen the better.

    My wife and I considered an iPad as an around the house tool, but opted for a used MacBook instead. It cost less and does more. It’s 3x as heavy, but that’s not really an issue when you’re sitting down.

  • berult

    Mark Hernandez,
    The Butterfly effect. One blink of an eye, one sweep of a thought, one walk in a park, one move throu the dark, a major on a C, a pitch in the dirt, the smile of a child, the stray of a cat, …a comment on an off-beat Blog.

    Don’t ever underestimate the power of Life over naught…

  • pa

    Joe Wilcox is an imbecile. But the bigger moron is the one paying his salary.

  • KenC

    Remember when Asus launched netbooks with the EeePC? It was 7″. And, now you can’t find a 7″ netbook, they’ve all gone larger to 10″ mostly. Why? Usability.

  • Metaspan

    OK, so logged onto the desktop Mac today, rather than reading from my iphone as usual. I finished the article and several comments–ready to move on — AND, reached for the “home” button somewhere on the keyboard! Momentarily couldn’t think what to do… So… there is just A LOT of iphone functionality that makes sense in a desktop environment and will make even more happy Apple customers!! IMHO :-P

  • gctwnl

    “Jobs just revealed why RIM and Android tablets are 7 inches; it’s not innovation, it’s an effort to be cheap so they can compete against Apple’s economies of scale. They can’t afford to build 10 inch tablets at the price points Apple is offering the iPad.”

    Yep, that seems to be the case. The same happens with Android phones which are often in their base price equipped with far less memory.

    I recall that the original NeXT Cube was deemed to expensive, but it was compared to Sun stations that were equipped with far less memory/software/etc. If you fully equipped a Sun workstation or a x86 running SCO Unix to the level of a NeXT, they generally were a lot more expensive (my own calculations at the time, twice the price). Still, the image of NeXT being expensive remained and hurt them.

    The fact that SJ actually spends time on `the obvious’ does tell me that at least they are wary that a superior product will lose out because of the image it holds or because of lower price in combination with (unrecognized at first glance) far less value. They do fight for image here and the fact that they do tells me that they take it seriously.

  • kdaeseok

    I’m getting a Galaxy Tab- will let you know what I think of 7″.

  • JPTJr


    Will this be a company-provided device, or are you just curious? Either way, interested to hear your impressions and see if you think Jobs is right.

  • kdaeseok

    I’m going to buy it myself. Tab can replace my mobile phone, so I wouldn’t need to bring two things. Sure it’s big, but I used to carry around a 7″ portable media player… usually not a problem.
    Looks like a good device, and seems to have all the functions I want, so I’ll give it a shot.

  • gslusher


    You might want to read the specs and reviews of the Galaxy. I haven’t seen where it can be used as a 3G phone. It has 3G, but that might be for data only, like the 3G iPad. It’s certainly not designed to be held up to your face like a phone. (For one thing, it seems to lack a proximity sensor, so your face would activate the touch screen.) You can use it with a Bluetooth headset, most likely, but you may be restricted to useing Skype for phone calls.

  • kdaeseok

    Yes, it can.
    “Provided you’ve whacked in a functioning SIM card, the Tab also serves as a phone.”
    I’ve a bluetooth headphones… so shouldn’t be a problem.

    But maybe not in the US? I’ve also heard somewhere that US Tabs are released without the phone functions.

  • http://all.net/ hylas

    “Have somebody help you do the math.” – FTW.

  • snookie

    You are getting a Galaxy Tab and you are actually telling people that?
    You do know that a little company named…GOOGLE…said that Android is not ready for Tablets yet right?

  • snookie

    I just looked at the CNet UK article. Of course CNet is a bunch of idiots whose main goal is to sell ads and steer suckers to their advertisers by silly reviews. But I had to LOL when I saw the part that said you can use it as a phone too which the iPad can’t do…where to start…
    These slapped together Android “tablets” are all going to come out right about the same time iPad 2.0 does btw. That will be amusing.

  • kdaeseok

    I was just saying that I’m getting a Galaxy Tab and I’ll let you know what I think of using a 7 inch tablet after I use it.
    A lot of people are saying that 7 inch tablets are rubbish. That might be true, but it’s still a speculation. You never know before you use it yourself-

  • http://lineoftheday.com schwabsauce

    In my opinion, the iPad means even more for business than it does for consumers. Once companies start building custom software that lets people do their jobs on the go, there will be no looking back. The iPhone also carries this potential, but for many workers, I think the complexity of their areas of expertise befits the tablet, and you don’t look quite as unprofessional jabbing away at it with your clients.

    White collar business-people may be well served by the 10-inch iPad, but I think that a lot of people who work on their feet won’t manage as well. Conversely, everyone from waiters to construction workers to vendors could run their businesses (and run them better) with a 6- or 7-inch device. When Steve pooh-poohs it, I firmly believe that what he really means is that Apple will hook it up next summer and there’s no point messing around with the competition.

    Think of how many people carry around 6-inch note pads instead of legal or letter-sized pads. And don’t restrict yourself to thinking about pockets. Think toolbelts and holsters for one thing; but I think the real tip is a low-profile backpack (like a drawstring sports bag) that can be worn inside a jacket or even inside a shirt. For that – and remember that the ease with which you can reach over your shoulder to snatch it is crucial – the 10-inch will do but the smaller iPad will deliver. Or attach the thing to a necklace! Travel-wallet style.