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	<title>Comments on: Chronicles of Conflict: the History of Adobe vs. Apple</title>
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	<description>Daniel Eran Dilger in San Francisco</description>
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		<title>By: Inside Apple&#8217;s 2011: Steve Jobs&#8217; achievements, battles and crises &#8212; RoughlyDrafted Magazine</title>
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		<dc:creator>Inside Apple&#8217;s 2011: Steve Jobs&#8217; achievements, battles and crises &#8212; RoughlyDrafted Magazine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Jan 2012 05:50:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Along with Samsung, Google, HP, RIM, and a variety of other tablet makers had supported Flash in an effort to differentiate their products from Apple&#8217;s Flash-free iOS devices. But by the end of the year, Adobe would concede defeat for Flash on mobile products, deferring instead to support the open HTML5 specification as Jobs had recommended years earlier. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Along with Samsung, Google, HP, RIM, and a variety of other tablet makers had supported Flash in an effort to differentiate their products from Apple&#8217;s Flash-free iOS devices. But by the end of the year, Adobe would concede defeat for Flash on mobile products, deferring instead to support the open HTML5 specification as Jobs had recommended years earlier. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Quark108</title>
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		<dc:creator>Quark108</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Nov 2011 22:27:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Steve last year: 
“Perhaps Adobe should focus more on creating great HTML5 tools for the future, and less on criticizing Apple for leaving the past behind.&quot;

Adobe today (http://blogs.adobe.com/conversations/2011/11/flash-focus.html ):
“HTML5 is now universally supported on major mobile devices, in some cases exclusively,&quot; he said. &quot;This makes HTML5 the best solution for creating and deploying content in the browser across multiple platforms.

&quot;We are excited about this, and will continue our work with key players in the HTML community, including Google, Apple, Microsoft and RIM, to drive HTML 5 innovation they can use to advance their mobile browsers.”

I guess Mr. Jobs was right all along!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Steve last year:<br />
“Perhaps Adobe should focus more on creating great HTML5 tools for the future, and less on criticizing Apple for leaving the past behind.&#8221;</p>
<p>Adobe today (<a href="http://blogs.adobe.com/conversations/2011/11/flash-focus.html" rel="nofollow">http://blogs.adobe.com/conversations/2011/11/flash-focus.html</a> ):<br />
“HTML5 is now universally supported on major mobile devices, in some cases exclusively,&#8221; he said. &#8220;This makes HTML5 the best solution for creating and deploying content in the browser across multiple platforms.</p>
<p>&#8220;We are excited about this, and will continue our work with key players in the HTML community, including Google, Apple, Microsoft and RIM, to drive HTML 5 innovation they can use to advance their mobile browsers.”</p>
<p>I guess Mr. Jobs was right all along!</p>
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		<title>By: The Mad Cow</title>
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		<dc:creator>The Mad Cow</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Mar 2011 13:06:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great post!  Thanks for sharing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great post!  Thanks for sharing.</p>
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		<title>By: dredman</title>
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		<dc:creator>dredman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Mar 2011 15:12:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Lo, what a comely post.  Brilliant :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lo, what a comely post.  Brilliant :)</p>
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		<title>By: airmanchairman</title>
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		<dc:creator>airmanchairman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Apr 2010 13:41:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yossef { 04.14.10 at 5:02 am }
Good piece Daniel. כל הכבוד Can you rewrite it in Hebrew ?

Better still, can anyone program this blog as a scrolling faux-Hebrew font disappearing into space like the Star Wars intro? And publish it as a link or a video?

LoL! Most hilarious bit was without a doubt is &quot;And Adobe cursed Apple and Steve Jobs and made great noises and gnashed its teeth and ripped its garments apart and scraped its festering boils with shards of pottery. &quot; Quality, outstanding!

Dan, you are a poet and clown of the highest order...

POP! There go my ribs....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yossef { 04.14.10 at 5:02 am }<br />
Good piece Daniel. כל הכבוד Can you rewrite it in Hebrew ?</p>
<p>Better still, can anyone program this blog as a scrolling faux-Hebrew font disappearing into space like the Star Wars intro? And publish it as a link or a video?</p>
<p>LoL! Most hilarious bit was without a doubt is &#8220;And Adobe cursed Apple and Steve Jobs and made great noises and gnashed its teeth and ripped its garments apart and scraped its festering boils with shards of pottery. &#8221; Quality, outstanding!</p>
<p>Dan, you are a poet and clown of the highest order&#8230;</p>
<p>POP! There go my ribs&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: gslusher</title>
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		<dc:creator>gslusher</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Apr 2010 11:04:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To add a bit: Adobe didn&#039;t just screw over the &quot;pros&quot; who used Macs. They did a number on us lowly amateurs who didn&#039;t want to spend a fortune on CS3. Photoshop Elements is enough for most non-pro photographers. However, Adobe
chose not to update Photoshop Elements for the Mac for a long, long time. The Mac version stayed at 4.0.x while the Windows version was updated several  times. Finally, Adobe came out with Elements 6.0 for the Mac--skipping v 5, though (if I recall correctly) it was missing a few features of the Windows version. There was NO reason for this, other than that Adobe didn&#039;t give a damn about Mac users. They also had problems with their RAW converter for Elements 4 that they never fixed. (They said that a particular RAW converter was compatible with Elements 4, but it was not--it caused Elements to crash, often upon launching.) If I could find a substitute for Elements (one that would run the Photoshop plug-ins I use), I&#039;d drop it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To add a bit: Adobe didn&#8217;t just screw over the &#8220;pros&#8221; who used Macs. They did a number on us lowly amateurs who didn&#8217;t want to spend a fortune on CS3. Photoshop Elements is enough for most non-pro photographers. However, Adobe<br />
chose not to update Photoshop Elements for the Mac for a long, long time. The Mac version stayed at 4.0.x while the Windows version was updated several  times. Finally, Adobe came out with Elements 6.0 for the Mac&#8211;skipping v 5, though (if I recall correctly) it was missing a few features of the Windows version. There was NO reason for this, other than that Adobe didn&#8217;t give a damn about Mac users. They also had problems with their RAW converter for Elements 4 that they never fixed. (They said that a particular RAW converter was compatible with Elements 4, but it was not&#8211;it caused Elements to crash, often upon launching.) If I could find a substitute for Elements (one that would run the Photoshop plug-ins I use), I&#8217;d drop it.</p>
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		<title>By: enzos</title>
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		<dc:creator>enzos</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Apr 2010 08:41:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks, Bonze. Thought the Macbook was running cooler after the security update.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks, Bonze. Thought the Macbook was running cooler after the security update.</p>
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		<title>By: bonze</title>
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		<dc:creator>bonze</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Apr 2010 05:50:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Lord, I do loathe Flash, and by implication all things Adobe, but if this sunny scenario should come to pass I know that my heart shall be full of forgiveness for misdeeds past...

...but you will get me to give up GIMP and pay $$$ for Photoshop when you pry the cash from my cold dead fingers...

And note:  Installing Flash 10.0.45.2 on my machine Flash started eating 80% of my CPU cycles, pretty much all the time, under 10.6.2 and 10.6.3.  After installing the latest Security Update, this moderated dramatically, so folk, do not put off installing that update; it will yield unexpected dividends.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lord, I do loathe Flash, and by implication all things Adobe, but if this sunny scenario should come to pass I know that my heart shall be full of forgiveness for misdeeds past&#8230;</p>
<p>&#8230;but you will get me to give up GIMP and pay $$$ for Photoshop when you pry the cash from my cold dead fingers&#8230;</p>
<p>And note:  Installing Flash 10.0.45.2 on my machine Flash started eating 80% of my CPU cycles, pretty much all the time, under 10.6.2 and 10.6.3.  After installing the latest Security Update, this moderated dramatically, so folk, do not put off installing that update; it will yield unexpected dividends.</p>
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		<title>By: Neil Anderson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Neil Anderson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Apr 2010 16:18:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Exceptional!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Exceptional!</p>
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		<title>By: nowhereman</title>
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		<dc:creator>nowhereman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Apr 2010 12:43:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dan:

Truly one of your best. Hilarious and informative - a great mix. 

@stefn:
Nice touché on Adobe &#039;knowing itself&#039;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dan:</p>
<p>Truly one of your best. Hilarious and informative &#8211; a great mix. </p>
<p>@stefn:<br />
Nice touché on Adobe &#8216;knowing itself&#8217;.</p>
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