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	<title>Comments on: Hands on with Apple&#8217;s iPad (with videos and photos)</title>
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	<description>Daniel Eran Dilger in San Francisco</description>
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		<title>By: unscriptable</title>
		<link>http://www.roughlydrafted.com/2010/01/27/hands-on-with-apples-ipad-with-videos-and-photos/comment-page-2/#comment-23952</link>
		<dc:creator>unscriptable</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Feb 2010 16:38:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You can see the placeholder for the camera in Daniel&#039;s videos.  Take this one: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KWqD2bKff_k

At 29 seconds and 47 seconds, there&#039;s a clearly visible circle at the top.  

It&#039;s easy to miss unless the lighting is just right. That&#039;s why the reviewers at the event missed it.  Here&#039;s a still shot, but it&#039;s easier to see in the video: http://pic.im/gWq 

The only question in my mind is whether the camera will make it into the first release!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You can see the placeholder for the camera in Daniel&#8217;s videos.  Take this one: <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KWqD2bKff_k" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KWqD2bKff_k</a></p>
<p>At 29 seconds and 47 seconds, there&#8217;s a clearly visible circle at the top.  </p>
<p>It&#8217;s easy to miss unless the lighting is just right. That&#8217;s why the reviewers at the event missed it.  Here&#8217;s a still shot, but it&#8217;s easier to see in the video: <a href="http://pic.im/gWq" rel="nofollow">http://pic.im/gWq</a> </p>
<p>The only question in my mind is whether the camera will make it into the first release!</p>
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		<title>By: Conrad MacIntyre</title>
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		<dc:creator>Conrad MacIntyre</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Feb 2010 04:48:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ulicar

I&#039;m sorry my friend, but you&#039;re an idiot. Do you even know what HTML5 is? iPad fully supports HTML5. You are broadcasting your ignorance.

Flash is a pain in the ass, and should be done away with. As a web developer I cringe a little inside when I&#039;m asked to do anything in Flash. Also, Flash is responsible for Farmville... FTL.

I&#039;m not terribly sure where Java comes in... what websites are you going to where lack of Java is a deal-breaker. There&#039;s nothing wrong with the technology, really, but other than uploading Facebook photos (which you can do through iPhoto directly) who really makes any use of Java anyhow??

You don&#039;t have to like the iPad, and you certainly don&#039;t have to buy it. But don&#039;t talk about things you clearly don&#039;t understand.

PS - Those Flash games are mostly inoperable on an interface without a full keyboard/mouse set up anyway - and they probably have better versions on the App Store (which is NOT a cash cow for Apple - look into it, you&#039;ll see) and even many of those are free!

I&#039;ve spent a grand total of $7 on apps and I can do everything I need to do on my iPhone.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ulicar</p>
<p>I&#8217;m sorry my friend, but you&#8217;re an idiot. Do you even know what HTML5 is? iPad fully supports HTML5. You are broadcasting your ignorance.</p>
<p>Flash is a pain in the ass, and should be done away with. As a web developer I cringe a little inside when I&#8217;m asked to do anything in Flash. Also, Flash is responsible for Farmville&#8230; FTL.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m not terribly sure where Java comes in&#8230; what websites are you going to where lack of Java is a deal-breaker. There&#8217;s nothing wrong with the technology, really, but other than uploading Facebook photos (which you can do through iPhoto directly) who really makes any use of Java anyhow??</p>
<p>You don&#8217;t have to like the iPad, and you certainly don&#8217;t have to buy it. But don&#8217;t talk about things you clearly don&#8217;t understand.</p>
<p>PS &#8211; Those Flash games are mostly inoperable on an interface without a full keyboard/mouse set up anyway &#8211; and they probably have better versions on the App Store (which is NOT a cash cow for Apple &#8211; look into it, you&#8217;ll see) and even many of those are free!</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve spent a grand total of $7 on apps and I can do everything I need to do on my iPhone.</p>
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		<title>By: miloh</title>
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		<dc:creator>miloh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 31 Jan 2010 19:29:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@nini -- I agree completely. There is much that a computer does which is entirely unnecessary for many people, and the inclusion of those capabilities makes the entire system so complicated they don&#039;t want to use the thing. I have family members who own iMacs but only need about 5% of the functionality. The machines sit boxed up in the closet because they&#039;re too difficult to use. An iPad would be perfect.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@nini &#8212; I agree completely. There is much that a computer does which is entirely unnecessary for many people, and the inclusion of those capabilities makes the entire system so complicated they don&#8217;t want to use the thing. I have family members who own iMacs but only need about 5% of the functionality. The machines sit boxed up in the closet because they&#8217;re too difficult to use. An iPad would be perfect.</p>
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		<title>By: John B</title>
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		<dc:creator>John B</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 31 Jan 2010 19:10:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;With its HD-resolution display&quot;

I&#039;d just like to point out the the iPad DOES NOT have an HD-resolution display.  Minimum resolution HD is 1280 x 720.  It will NOT play any HD content at its proper resolution.  HD content will have to be scaled on the iPad.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;With its HD-resolution display&#8221;</p>
<p>I&#8217;d just like to point out the the iPad DOES NOT have an HD-resolution display.  Minimum resolution HD is 1280 x 720.  It will NOT play any HD content at its proper resolution.  HD content will have to be scaled on the iPad.</p>
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		<title>By: nini</title>
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		<dc:creator>nini</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 31 Jan 2010 13:31:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s essentially the democratisation of personal computing and I love it. What I was saying in my last post intro was this:

&quot;It’s won’t be the only means of computing, I reckon it’ll be the industry standard though. You can still get your command line on now but much like tinkering in Terminal using a computer as we do now will be a  very niche thing to do, almost to the point of the hobbyists of the 80s. &quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s essentially the democratisation of personal computing and I love it. What I was saying in my last post intro was this:</p>
<p>&#8220;It’s won’t be the only means of computing, I reckon it’ll be the industry standard though. You can still get your command line on now but much like tinkering in Terminal using a computer as we do now will be a  very niche thing to do, almost to the point of the hobbyists of the 80s. &#8220;</p>
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		<title>By: miloh</title>
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		<dc:creator>miloh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 31 Jan 2010 08:06:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@nini -- If network devices like the iPad really begin to catch on, I think we&#039;ll start to see an increase of reliable, easy-to-use server appliances in the home. Not only would it be a great media center, serving up content to iPads all over the house, but it could hold the data that people don&#039;t want to put on someone else&#039;s network. Consumer ISPs should have no problem with people accessing their servers from remote locations so long as it&#039;s only them and not the mass-public.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@nini &#8212; If network devices like the iPad really begin to catch on, I think we&#8217;ll start to see an increase of reliable, easy-to-use server appliances in the home. Not only would it be a great media center, serving up content to iPads all over the house, but it could hold the data that people don&#8217;t want to put on someone else&#8217;s network. Consumer ISPs should have no problem with people accessing their servers from remote locations so long as it&#8217;s only them and not the mass-public.</p>
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		<title>By: nini</title>
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		<dc:creator>nini</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 31 Jan 2010 03:52:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@miloh: It&#039;s won&#039;t be the only means of computing, I reckon it&#039;ll be the industry standard though. You can still get your command line on but much like tinkering in Terminal it&#039;s a very niche thing to do. 

The iPad is aimed at the casual computing market but no reason why it cannot be used in professional capacities, heck even the iPhone as is is very much in use within the music community at both amateur and professional levels. The limits of this beast are pretty much not needing roads anymore but some you just cannot please because of a lack of support for something which isn&#039;t there for a damn good reason. Cloud computing, that&#039;s a whole other thing, also the future but one that will meet with resistance if only because your files aren&#039;t where you are in complete command.

I think this&#039;ll be fun and I feel like two things should result from this, the obliteration of Flash as a web standard (any site which demands Flash without degrading gracefully without it has no business being online) and getting to watch everyone scatter like ants to play catch up again.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@miloh: It&#8217;s won&#8217;t be the only means of computing, I reckon it&#8217;ll be the industry standard though. You can still get your command line on but much like tinkering in Terminal it&#8217;s a very niche thing to do. </p>
<p>The iPad is aimed at the casual computing market but no reason why it cannot be used in professional capacities, heck even the iPhone as is is very much in use within the music community at both amateur and professional levels. The limits of this beast are pretty much not needing roads anymore but some you just cannot please because of a lack of support for something which isn&#8217;t there for a damn good reason. Cloud computing, that&#8217;s a whole other thing, also the future but one that will meet with resistance if only because your files aren&#8217;t where you are in complete command.</p>
<p>I think this&#8217;ll be fun and I feel like two things should result from this, the obliteration of Flash as a web standard (any site which demands Flash without degrading gracefully without it has no business being online) and getting to watch everyone scatter like ants to play catch up again.</p>
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		<title>By: miloh</title>
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		<dc:creator>miloh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 30 Jan 2010 19:23:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@nini -- I wouldn&#039;t necessarily say this is the future of computing, but I would agree that it&#039;s definitely another option. I also wouldn&#039;t limit the iPad just to casual computing. I think it would find use in any situation that does not need a full computing environment all in the one box. This includes casual use, certainly, but there are plenty of professional uses as well. Given sufficient bandwidth and back-end support, I can see this being used to edit video or control industrial operations or any of a number of other things.

I think you&#039;re right that the incumbent geeks with their preconceived ideas about how computers should be are the ones who are experiencing the most trouble with this. Once one lets go of the idea that it all has to happen on that one device they&#039;re physically touching, a whole world of possibilities emerges. The so-called iGeneration already gets this, and those who are not tech-savvy are not predisposed against it.

Numbers are going to be the key. Will enough people be open to this alternate model to outweigh those who are opposed? It&#039;ll be interesting to watch.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@nini &#8212; I wouldn&#8217;t necessarily say this is the future of computing, but I would agree that it&#8217;s definitely another option. I also wouldn&#8217;t limit the iPad just to casual computing. I think it would find use in any situation that does not need a full computing environment all in the one box. This includes casual use, certainly, but there are plenty of professional uses as well. Given sufficient bandwidth and back-end support, I can see this being used to edit video or control industrial operations or any of a number of other things.</p>
<p>I think you&#8217;re right that the incumbent geeks with their preconceived ideas about how computers should be are the ones who are experiencing the most trouble with this. Once one lets go of the idea that it all has to happen on that one device they&#8217;re physically touching, a whole world of possibilities emerges. The so-called iGeneration already gets this, and those who are not tech-savvy are not predisposed against it.</p>
<p>Numbers are going to be the key. Will enough people be open to this alternate model to outweigh those who are opposed? It&#8217;ll be interesting to watch.</p>
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		<title>By: nini</title>
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		<dc:creator>nini</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 30 Jan 2010 12:18:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I didn&#039;t get it for a while but then I realised that the person who this is for isn&#039;t you or me, it&#039;s for your old man or your non tech literate buddy. This is the future of computing and there&#039;s little to screw up, everything we know is abstracted away so all you do is what you need to do and do it damn well too. 

To us, that&#039;s a huge paradigm shift: no file/folder/desktop system, no byzantine subsystem, just apps? That is the future of computing, no doubt. Like Maniac said, the guys in the middle will be the target audience, semi computer literate but not geeks. We like to tinker and basically control the horizontal and vertical but this, this is taking computing away from us and putting it into the hand of Joe Six-Pack for the first time, let&#039;s just say some collective nerd weiners have gone down to a semi right now.

The first Macintosh, changed the game of computing. The iPod, changed the game of portable digital music. The iPhone, changed the game of smartphones and I reckon the iPad will change the game of casual computing. 

But &quot;what about multitasking, Flash (blech) and ?&quot; you might ask. Well, what about them? Rev A people, Rev A. See how far the iPod and iPhone have come since their Rev A days? Expect big things.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I didn&#8217;t get it for a while but then I realised that the person who this is for isn&#8217;t you or me, it&#8217;s for your old man or your non tech literate buddy. This is the future of computing and there&#8217;s little to screw up, everything we know is abstracted away so all you do is what you need to do and do it damn well too. </p>
<p>To us, that&#8217;s a huge paradigm shift: no file/folder/desktop system, no byzantine subsystem, just apps? That is the future of computing, no doubt. Like Maniac said, the guys in the middle will be the target audience, semi computer literate but not geeks. We like to tinker and basically control the horizontal and vertical but this, this is taking computing away from us and putting it into the hand of Joe Six-Pack for the first time, let&#8217;s just say some collective nerd weiners have gone down to a semi right now.</p>
<p>The first Macintosh, changed the game of computing. The iPod, changed the game of portable digital music. The iPhone, changed the game of smartphones and I reckon the iPad will change the game of casual computing. </p>
<p>But &#8220;what about multitasking, Flash (blech) and ?&#8221; you might ask. Well, what about them? Rev A people, Rev A. See how far the iPod and iPhone have come since their Rev A days? Expect big things.</p>
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		<title>By: miloh</title>
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		<dc:creator>miloh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 30 Jan 2010 10:06:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Jmmx -- Multitasking is only necessary if you want to do more than one thing at a time on a single device. I guess people are so accustomed to doing that they cannot fathom anything else. There&#039;s no rule that says everything has to all be in the same box.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Jmmx &#8212; Multitasking is only necessary if you want to do more than one thing at a time on a single device. I guess people are so accustomed to doing that they cannot fathom anything else. There&#8217;s no rule that says everything has to all be in the same box.</p>
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