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	<title>Comments on: Google&#8217;s Nexus One takes on Droid as Apple&#8217;s iPhone App Store grows</title>
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		<title>By: Why Apple is suing HTC rather than Google or Android &#8212; RoughlyDrafted Magazine</title>
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		<dc:creator>Why Apple is suing HTC rather than Google or Android &#8212; RoughlyDrafted Magazine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Mar 2010 20:11:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: MetalboySiSo</title>
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		<dc:creator>MetalboySiSo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Jan 2010 17:59:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Chuck,

I believe the different versions thing was only one of Tundraboy&#039;s arguments/points about consumers getting confused by &#039;splintering.&#039; His other points gelled quite well with what you are saying, and I agree with both of you. I am pretty much the only tech-geek in my family (aside from my dad, and he doesn&#039;t even get near being as geeky as I am), and I have seen what both of you are describing in action, both in my family and in my friends, whom I would consider to be perfect real-world examples of &quot;end users.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Chuck,</p>
<p>I believe the different versions thing was only one of Tundraboy&#8217;s arguments/points about consumers getting confused by &#8217;splintering.&#8217; His other points gelled quite well with what you are saying, and I agree with both of you. I am pretty much the only tech-geek in my family (aside from my dad, and he doesn&#8217;t even get near being as geeky as I am), and I have seen what both of you are describing in action, both in my family and in my friends, whom I would consider to be perfect real-world examples of &#8220;end users.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: ChuckO</title>
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		<dc:creator>ChuckO</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 Jan 2010 02:12:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>David Dennis, I think you actually agreed with me not Tundraboy. As you said you were confused by the fact that there was two Android phones for sale NOT by the version of android (Android is just the OS so version pertains to only the OS not hardware versions) they were running. That&#039;s what I was saying that most people won&#039;t be aware that the different Android phones run different versions of Android. You didn&#039;t like trying to differentiate based on price and form factor. I would assume that would be a plus for a lot of people though having a couple of different hardware configurations to try out and pick from.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>David Dennis, I think you actually agreed with me not Tundraboy. As you said you were confused by the fact that there was two Android phones for sale NOT by the version of android (Android is just the OS so version pertains to only the OS not hardware versions) they were running. That&#8217;s what I was saying that most people won&#8217;t be aware that the different Android phones run different versions of Android. You didn&#8217;t like trying to differentiate based on price and form factor. I would assume that would be a plus for a lot of people though having a couple of different hardware configurations to try out and pick from.</p>
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		<title>By: David Dennis</title>
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		<dc:creator>David Dennis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Jan 2010 20:54:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Chuck, Tundraboy actually has an excellent point. 

I went into the Verizon store and saw the HTC Droid.  &quot;Hmm, there&#039;s the Droid.  Doesn&#039;t look anything like the pictures,&quot; I thought.

I finally managed to find the Motorola Droid, in the front of the store in a space I had not noticed before.  Had a really nice looking display.  But I played around with it and thought the interface was a bit confusing and poorly thought out compared to iPhone.  Not really surprising considering how much time and effort has gone into refining iPhone&#039;s design.  

Later on, I also saw a Droid flyer.  Featured both HTC and Motorola versions. There was nothing to say what the differences were or why I should buy one and not the other.  As I recall, one of them was $99 and the other was $199 with a $100 rebate, so even price wasn&#039;t much of a differentiator.

Seems to me competition is tough when both sides have such similar products, but maybe that&#039;s just me.  Certainly if I were an Android consumer, I would be confused.

D</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Chuck, Tundraboy actually has an excellent point. </p>
<p>I went into the Verizon store and saw the HTC Droid.  &#8220;Hmm, there&#8217;s the Droid.  Doesn&#8217;t look anything like the pictures,&#8221; I thought.</p>
<p>I finally managed to find the Motorola Droid, in the front of the store in a space I had not noticed before.  Had a really nice looking display.  But I played around with it and thought the interface was a bit confusing and poorly thought out compared to iPhone.  Not really surprising considering how much time and effort has gone into refining iPhone&#8217;s design.  </p>
<p>Later on, I also saw a Droid flyer.  Featured both HTC and Motorola versions. There was nothing to say what the differences were or why I should buy one and not the other.  As I recall, one of them was $99 and the other was $199 with a $100 rebate, so even price wasn&#8217;t much of a differentiator.</p>
<p>Seems to me competition is tough when both sides have such similar products, but maybe that&#8217;s just me.  Certainly if I were an Android consumer, I would be confused.</p>
<p>D</p>
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		<title>By: ChuckO</title>
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		<dc:creator>ChuckO</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 Dec 2009 14:31:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>scottkrk, Android is more important than you think. Computation is, err, has gone mobile and Google needs to protect their core business (ads) on that flank. Apple isn&#039;t in the ad business, at least so far, so they aren&#039;t really battling Apple on that front but Microsoft is and so they need to help Windows Mobile fail. So at this point they&#039;re really throwing the cock block at Microsoft and Bing on the mobile front to keep people using Google search and products on their phones.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>scottkrk, Android is more important than you think. Computation is, err, has gone mobile and Google needs to protect their core business (ads) on that flank. Apple isn&#8217;t in the ad business, at least so far, so they aren&#8217;t really battling Apple on that front but Microsoft is and so they need to help Windows Mobile fail. So at this point they&#8217;re really throwing the cock block at Microsoft and Bing on the mobile front to keep people using Google search and products on their phones.</p>
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		<title>By: nini</title>
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		<dc:creator>nini</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 Dec 2009 13:21:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That&#039;d be because he did, Prince McLean is his pen name for his work for AppleInsider for some reason. I reckon the opposite is true but that&#039;s here nor there,</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That&#8217;d be because he did, Prince McLean is his pen name for his work for AppleInsider for some reason. I reckon the opposite is true but that&#8217;s here nor there,</p>
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		<title>By: sprockkets</title>
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		<dc:creator>sprockkets</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 Dec 2009 05:17:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Always amazed at how many ppl read articles like this and think Daniel wrote it.</description>
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		<title>By: scottkrk</title>
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		<dc:creator>scottkrk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 Dec 2009 01:49:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Daniel, I think your analysis of Android as fragmented and without a clear execution strategy is accurate but I would argue this is probably Google&#039;s best strategy given that Android is a non-core business that is in catch-up mode.

On the planned vs emergent strategy continuum, Google are way over on the emergent end  both philosophically and practically with non-advertising activities. Google have done a very good job of diverting attention to the non-core activities and Android is just another non-core activity designed to shield their core advertising business that delivers the company its rivers of gold.

Schmidt is fond of saying Google likes to put stuff out there and see what the community does with it. Sounds fairly benevolent but it is a great way to reduce risk and externalize costs to the community. What is interesting with Android is that they have got the carriers and hardware manufactures to play this game!

Google fanboys like to herald each new Android phone as an iPhone killer but the Google business hardheads know that this is at least a couple of years away. Android won&#039;t be out of beta until about 2011-12 but in the meantime they will  develop relationships with manufactures and carriers by delivering phones to Android enthusiasts who are happy to beta test as long as they can mod their phones. The whole Linux proposition.

So in short Google won&#039;t be a threat to Apple until 2011-12. The question is what will Apple have managed to deliver to keep developers and customers enthralled with the iPhone? 

As an iPhone/Mac user I am happy for Google and M$ to fight it out for  dominance in search and OS, this leaves Apple the space to innovate and deliver compelling premium experiences that can eventually become mainstream.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Daniel, I think your analysis of Android as fragmented and without a clear execution strategy is accurate but I would argue this is probably Google&#8217;s best strategy given that Android is a non-core business that is in catch-up mode.</p>
<p>On the planned vs emergent strategy continuum, Google are way over on the emergent end  both philosophically and practically with non-advertising activities. Google have done a very good job of diverting attention to the non-core activities and Android is just another non-core activity designed to shield their core advertising business that delivers the company its rivers of gold.</p>
<p>Schmidt is fond of saying Google likes to put stuff out there and see what the community does with it. Sounds fairly benevolent but it is a great way to reduce risk and externalize costs to the community. What is interesting with Android is that they have got the carriers and hardware manufactures to play this game!</p>
<p>Google fanboys like to herald each new Android phone as an iPhone killer but the Google business hardheads know that this is at least a couple of years away. Android won&#8217;t be out of beta until about 2011-12 but in the meantime they will  develop relationships with manufactures and carriers by delivering phones to Android enthusiasts who are happy to beta test as long as they can mod their phones. The whole Linux proposition.</p>
<p>So in short Google won&#8217;t be a threat to Apple until 2011-12. The question is what will Apple have managed to deliver to keep developers and customers enthralled with the iPhone? </p>
<p>As an iPhone/Mac user I am happy for Google and M$ to fight it out for  dominance in search and OS, this leaves Apple the space to innovate and deliver compelling premium experiences that can eventually become mainstream.</p>
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		<title>By: ChuckO</title>
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		<dc:creator>ChuckO</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Dec 2009 19:20:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Tundraboy, I think it&#039;s less than that for the typical consumer. I think the likely scenario is someone goes into verizon, t-mobil, etc and the salesman says &quot;would you like something LIKE the iPhone!&quot; if the person says yes they show them the Android model that carrier has. I think your description of the issues is way more tree than forest for the typical person. The average non-techie&#039;s never going to get to the point of knowing there are three versions of Android out there. I think the shame is they&#039;ll go home with the phone thinking it&#039;s competitive with the iPhone and then find out it&#039;s not because of storage space issues that won&#039;t allow it to  run iPhone quality games and other apps never mind as Dan has described the splintering problems. That&#039;s a real problem with the Android coverage in the tech press that they don&#039;t make people aware of the shortcomings they just geek out about the screen on the Droid or whatever. I think Google risks a lot of ill will when people get these phones and are disappointed. I don&#039;t think they&#039;ll remember HTC made it they&#039;ll be pissed at Google.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tundraboy, I think it&#8217;s less than that for the typical consumer. I think the likely scenario is someone goes into verizon, t-mobil, etc and the salesman says &#8220;would you like something LIKE the iPhone!&#8221; if the person says yes they show them the Android model that carrier has. I think your description of the issues is way more tree than forest for the typical person. The average non-techie&#8217;s never going to get to the point of knowing there are three versions of Android out there. I think the shame is they&#8217;ll go home with the phone thinking it&#8217;s competitive with the iPhone and then find out it&#8217;s not because of storage space issues that won&#8217;t allow it to  run iPhone quality games and other apps never mind as Dan has described the splintering problems. That&#8217;s a real problem with the Android coverage in the tech press that they don&#8217;t make people aware of the shortcomings they just geek out about the screen on the Droid or whatever. I think Google risks a lot of ill will when people get these phones and are disappointed. I don&#8217;t think they&#8217;ll remember HTC made it they&#8217;ll be pissed at Google.</p>
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		<dc:creator>uberVU - social comments</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Dec 2009 08:49:28 +0000</pubDate>
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