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	<title>Comments on: Sun, Oracle save Microsoft&#8217;s Pink after Danger data disaster</title>
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		<title>By: Why Apple&#8217;s iPhone is still not coming to Verizon &#8212; RoughlyDrafted Magazine</title>
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		<dc:creator>Why Apple&#8217;s iPhone is still not coming to Verizon &#8212; RoughlyDrafted Magazine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 31 Oct 2009 04:26:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Microsoft&#8217;s Danger SideKick data loss casts dark on cloud computing Microsoft&#8217;s Pink/Danger backup problem blamed on Roz Ho Sun, Oracle save Microsoft&#8217;s Pink after Danger data disaster [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Microsoft&#8217;s Danger SideKick data loss casts dark on cloud computing Microsoft&#8217;s Pink/Danger backup problem blamed on Roz Ho Sun, Oracle save Microsoft&#8217;s Pink after Danger data disaster [...]</p>
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		<title>By: John Dvorak reverses entire career, says Microsoft should copy Apple &#8212; RoughlyDrafted Magazine</title>
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		<dc:creator>John Dvorak reverses entire career, says Microsoft should copy Apple &#8212; RoughlyDrafted Magazine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Oct 2009 16:48:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Exclusive: Pink Danger leaks from Microsoft&#8217;s Windows Phone Microsoft&#8217;s Pink/Danger backup problem blamed on Roz Ho Sun, Oracle save Microsoft&#8217;s Pink after Danger data disaster [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Exclusive: Pink Danger leaks from Microsoft&#8217;s Windows Phone Microsoft&#8217;s Pink/Danger backup problem blamed on Roz Ho Sun, Oracle save Microsoft&#8217;s Pink after Danger data disaster [...]</p>
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		<title>By: TimmyDax</title>
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		<dc:creator>TimmyDax</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Oct 2009 02:19:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>“93% of companies that lost their data center for 10 days or longer due to a disaster filed for bankruptcy within one year of the disaster. 50% of business that found themselves without data management for this same time
period filed for bankruptcy immediately.” (Source: National Archives &amp; Records Administration in Washington)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>“93% of companies that lost their data center for 10 days or longer due to a disaster filed for bankruptcy within one year of the disaster. 50% of business that found themselves without data management for this same time<br />
period filed for bankruptcy immediately.” (Source: National Archives &amp; Records Administration in Washington)</p>
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		<title>By: The Mad Hatter</title>
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		<dc:creator>The Mad Hatter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Oct 2009 23:41:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Heh. Andrew Thomas says that &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.tgdaily.com/content/view/44313/97/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;A round of applause is in order for Microsoft support folks&lt;/a&gt; for recovering the Sidekick data, and he&#039;s &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.tgdaily.com/content/view/44329/140/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;blaming everyone except Microsoft&lt;/a&gt; for the problem. Andrew is consistent - he should work for Gartner.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Heh. Andrew Thomas says that <a href="http://www.tgdaily.com/content/view/44313/97/" rel="nofollow">A round of applause is in order for Microsoft support folks</a> for recovering the Sidekick data, and he&#8217;s <a href="http://www.tgdaily.com/content/view/44329/140/" rel="nofollow">blaming everyone except Microsoft</a> for the problem. Andrew is consistent &#8211; he should work for Gartner.</p>
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		<title>By: SunnyGuy53</title>
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		<dc:creator>SunnyGuy53</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Oct 2009 09:32:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think Microsoft is closer to &quot;nine fives&quot; on their server availability.

Sunny Guy</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think Microsoft is closer to &#8220;nine fives&#8221; on their server availability.</p>
<p>Sunny Guy</p>
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		<title>By: uberVU - social comments</title>
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		<dc:creator>uberVU - social comments</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Oct 2009 23:54:13 +0000</pubDate>
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This post was mentioned on Twitter by DanielEran: New: Sun, Oracle save Microsoft&#039;s Pink after Danger data disaster - http://tinyurl.com/yj7kgz7...</description>
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		<title>By: Sun, Oracle, and Microsoft Roles &#124; Boycott Novell</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sun, Oracle, and Microsoft Roles &#124; Boycott Novell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Oct 2009 21:22:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Roughly Drafted, which is another independent thinker like Groklaw, argues that Sun and Oracle actually saved Microsoft amid the Danger disaster, not caused it any trouble. From the analysis: [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Roughly Drafted, which is another independent thinker like Groklaw, argues that Sun and Oracle actually saved Microsoft amid the Danger disaster, not caused it any trouble. From the analysis: [...]</p>
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		<title>By: db5</title>
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		<dc:creator>db5</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Oct 2009 14:41:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Normally I&#039;d gloat with you, but I had the same thing happen to me a few days ago- during a newly initiated time machine backup, OS X froze and I was presented with a disk03s error. I was able to save the data off the disk, but with all of the orphaned folders, it takes FOREVER to reconstruct a drive.

For me, it was just an unfortunate coincidence. For MS, however, it was playing with fire to the tune of million$.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Normally I&#8217;d gloat with you, but I had the same thing happen to me a few days ago- during a newly initiated time machine backup, OS X froze and I was presented with a disk03s error. I was able to save the data off the disk, but with all of the orphaned folders, it takes FOREVER to reconstruct a drive.</p>
<p>For me, it was just an unfortunate coincidence. For MS, however, it was playing with fire to the tune of million$.</p>
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		<title>By: The Mad Hatter</title>
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		<dc:creator>The Mad Hatter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Oct 2009 11:56:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Microsoft has advertised “five nines” availability for its own servers, which means 99.999% uptime, a standard that only allows for 5.26 minutes of unscheduled downtime within a year.&lt;/blockquote&gt;
Now I could see you getting that level of uptime with OS2, OSX, BSD, Solaris, or Linux. Getting that much up time with Windows would seem totally impossible to me. Unless the server wasn&#039;t running anything (For those who haven&#039;t suffered the joys of administering a Windows Server with Exchange installed, you don&#039;t know what you are missing, and you don&#039;t want to know).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Microsoft has advertised “five nines” availability for its own servers, which means 99.999% uptime, a standard that only allows for 5.26 minutes of unscheduled downtime within a year.</p></blockquote>
<p>Now I could see you getting that level of uptime with OS2, OSX, BSD, Solaris, or Linux. Getting that much up time with Windows would seem totally impossible to me. Unless the server wasn&#8217;t running anything (For those who haven&#8217;t suffered the joys of administering a Windows Server with Exchange installed, you don&#8217;t know what you are missing, and you don&#8217;t want to know).</p>
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		<title>By: Berend Schotanus</title>
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		<dc:creator>Berend Schotanus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Oct 2009 09:05:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Apart from the obvious management blunders at Microsoft and the obligate call for making back-ups I think incident is also reason for reconsideration of the centralized &quot;one-truth&quot; data organization model.

When data quantities are becoming so vast that it takes &quot;days&quot; to make a back-up this should raise the question whether the working model is still feasible. Even when a healthy back-up had been in place it would have taken longer than five minutes to get the data back in place. And that&#039;s a problem that existed before Microsoft took over.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Apart from the obvious management blunders at Microsoft and the obligate call for making back-ups I think incident is also reason for reconsideration of the centralized &#8220;one-truth&#8221; data organization model.</p>
<p>When data quantities are becoming so vast that it takes &#8220;days&#8221; to make a back-up this should raise the question whether the working model is still feasible. Even when a healthy back-up had been in place it would have taken longer than five minutes to get the data back in place. And that&#8217;s a problem that existed before Microsoft took over.</p>
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