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	<title>Comments on: Apple iMovie 8.0.5 update debuts new iFrame video format</title>
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	<description>Daniel Eran Dilger in San Francisco</description>
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		<title>By: beetle</title>
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		<dc:creator>beetle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Oct 2009 17:51:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow, lucky me!  I am in the market for a new camcorder (but not an HD camcorder) and now I have the key feature to look for.  Unfortuneatly, it will probably be a year or more before the low end models pick this up!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow, lucky me!  I am in the market for a new camcorder (but not an HD camcorder) and now I have the key feature to look for.  Unfortuneatly, it will probably be a year or more before the low end models pick this up!</p>
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		<title>By: SteveS</title>
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		<dc:creator>SteveS</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Oct 2009 16:18:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Who&#039;s going to use their HD camcorder to record 1/4 HD quality video?  That&#039;s asinine.   You always record at the highest quality and down sample to meet the target requirement.  I have no issue of offering this as an option, but iFrame should accommodate full 1080p quality.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Who&#8217;s going to use their HD camcorder to record 1/4 HD quality video?  That&#8217;s asinine.   You always record at the highest quality and down sample to meet the target requirement.  I have no issue of offering this as an option, but iFrame should accommodate full 1080p quality.</p>
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		<title>By: enzos</title>
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		<dc:creator>enzos</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Oct 2009 13:54:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Seth Weintraub at Computerworld conjectures:
&gt;Apple&#039;s posted a quick KB article on the format.  From the KB we know that the resolution is hard set at 960x540.  That is exactly a quarter of 1080P HD size.  It is also 20 pixels away from being four times the size of the iPhone screen. A nice round multiple for easy up and down sampling? http://blogs.computerworld.com/14908/what_is_iframe_and_why_did_apple_release_it_today</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Seth Weintraub at Computerworld conjectures:<br />
&gt;Apple&#8217;s posted a quick KB article on the format.  From the KB we know that the resolution is hard set at 960&#215;540.  That is exactly a quarter of 1080P HD size.  It is also 20 pixels away from being four times the size of the iPhone screen. A nice round multiple for easy up and down sampling? <a href="http://blogs.computerworld.com/14908/what_is_iframe_and_why_did_apple_release_it_today" rel="nofollow">http://blogs.computerworld.com/14908/what_is_iframe_and_why_did_apple_release_it_today</a></p>
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		<title>By: pixelkisser</title>
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		<dc:creator>pixelkisser</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Oct 2009 10:52:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Erm, there&#039;s lots of stuff in this article which is not quite right. The whole issue is compounded by Apple calling a codec by a name (iframe) which already has a particular meaning in the world of video codecs.

DV as a codec is actually much easier to edit than HDV as it&#039;s itself &quot;iframe&quot; codec - ie. it keeps every frame separate and doesn&#039;t compress across frames. HDV does, and thus requires a lot more computing power to play it back and edit in real time. HDV is not like a DVD stream, it&#039;s just MPEG2 compression, and when pulled in over firewire becomes a regular QT movie. Okay, so DVD is MPEG2 as well but it&#039;s a wrapped up vobbified MPEG2 at a substantially lower bitrate and there&#039;s really no sense in comparing them.

All current macs and laptops shouldn&#039;t  have a problem working with HDV quicktimes - the problem arises when you want to overlay processor heavy effects and transitions : that&#039;s when slower macs will start grinding down.

It sounds as though Apple&#039;s &quot;iFrame&quot; codec might be a variant or version of the newly announced low end ProRes422 codecs. These are all &quot;iframe&quot; codecs and thus require less processing power. 

If iFrame really is only 540 I find it bizarre that Sanyo would advertise HD cameras which then feed in pictures at a resolution LOWER then even SD (PAL SD is 576 lines).

Non square pixels are a pain I agree but if you do anything in HD that&#039;s not full raster (ie. 1920*1080) or anything that ends being seen on a TV / DVD you&#039;re going to have to deal with rectangular pixels at some point.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Erm, there&#8217;s lots of stuff in this article which is not quite right. The whole issue is compounded by Apple calling a codec by a name (iframe) which already has a particular meaning in the world of video codecs.</p>
<p>DV as a codec is actually much easier to edit than HDV as it&#8217;s itself &#8220;iframe&#8221; codec &#8211; ie. it keeps every frame separate and doesn&#8217;t compress across frames. HDV does, and thus requires a lot more computing power to play it back and edit in real time. HDV is not like a DVD stream, it&#8217;s just MPEG2 compression, and when pulled in over firewire becomes a regular QT movie. Okay, so DVD is MPEG2 as well but it&#8217;s a wrapped up vobbified MPEG2 at a substantially lower bitrate and there&#8217;s really no sense in comparing them.</p>
<p>All current macs and laptops shouldn&#8217;t  have a problem working with HDV quicktimes &#8211; the problem arises when you want to overlay processor heavy effects and transitions : that&#8217;s when slower macs will start grinding down.</p>
<p>It sounds as though Apple&#8217;s &#8220;iFrame&#8221; codec might be a variant or version of the newly announced low end ProRes422 codecs. These are all &#8220;iframe&#8221; codecs and thus require less processing power. </p>
<p>If iFrame really is only 540 I find it bizarre that Sanyo would advertise HD cameras which then feed in pictures at a resolution LOWER then even SD (PAL SD is 576 lines).</p>
<p>Non square pixels are a pain I agree but if you do anything in HD that&#8217;s not full raster (ie. 1920*1080) or anything that ends being seen on a TV / DVD you&#8217;re going to have to deal with rectangular pixels at some point.</p>
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		<dc:creator>iMovie 8.0.5 Update &#171; Daqing Chu At WordPress</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Oct 2009 03:39:39 +0000</pubDate>
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