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	<title>Comments on: Microsoft uses adware model to pay for Zune HD apps</title>
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		<title>By: Windows Phone 7: Microsoft&#8217;s third failed attempt to be Apple &#8212; RoughlyDrafted Magazine</title>
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		<dc:creator>Windows Phone 7: Microsoft&#8217;s third failed attempt to be Apple &#8212; RoughlyDrafted Magazine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Mar 2010 03:16:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] The inside track on Apple&#8217;s tablet: a history of tablet computing Microsoft uses adware model to pay for Zune HD apps [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Newton Poetry &#8212; Newton quote of the week: retail boxes</title>
		<link>http://www.roughlydrafted.com/2009/09/17/microsoft-uses-adware-model-to-pay-for-zune-hd-apps/comment-page-1/#comment-22030</link>
		<dc:creator>Newton Poetry &#8212; Newton quote of the week: retail boxes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Oct 2009 10:40:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: The Mad Hatter</title>
		<link>http://www.roughlydrafted.com/2009/09/17/microsoft-uses-adware-model-to-pay-for-zune-hd-apps/comment-page-1/#comment-21082</link>
		<dc:creator>The Mad Hatter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Sep 2009 22:58:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@daGUY

Thanks, I&#039;ll check that out.</description>
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<p>Thanks, I&#8217;ll check that out.</p>
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		<title>By: benlewis</title>
		<link>http://www.roughlydrafted.com/2009/09/17/microsoft-uses-adware-model-to-pay-for-zune-hd-apps/comment-page-1/#comment-21080</link>
		<dc:creator>benlewis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Sep 2009 22:40:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And yet...CNET fawns. Two short excerpts from their &quot;review&quot;:

&quot;If you&#039;ve never seen the mobile Web browser on an iPhone or iPod Touch, the Zune HD&#039;s Web browser will knock your socks off. Its multitouch keyboard is more accurate and responsive than those on many touch-screen mobile phones we&#039;ve tested...Unfortunately, after putting the Zune HD toe-to-toe with the third-generation Touch (32GB model), there&#039;s no questioning the Safari browser&#039;s all-around supremacy.&quot; 

Let me get this straight - if you&#039;ve never used anything but a Zune (ah, the good old days of 95% Windows penetration), then the browser on the Zune will &quot;knock your socks off&quot;.

It gets better:

&quot;The Microsoft Zune HD is a beautiful device--inside and out--that presents one of the first appealing and affordable alternatives to the Apple iPod Touch. Microsoft deserves praise for taking the Zune&#039;s music and video experience beyond the standard set by Apple. What remains to be seen is whether people will value Microsoft&#039;s premium media experience enough to resist the increasingly multipurpose appeal of the iPod.&quot; 

So, will you, the consumer, be wise enough to see the value in a &quot;premium media experience&quot; (whatever that is) as presented on a truly beautiful device, or will you be seduced by that dirty multipurpose appeal that Apple&#039;s selling?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And yet&#8230;CNET fawns. Two short excerpts from their &#8220;review&#8221;:</p>
<p>&#8220;If you&#8217;ve never seen the mobile Web browser on an iPhone or iPod Touch, the Zune HD&#8217;s Web browser will knock your socks off. Its multitouch keyboard is more accurate and responsive than those on many touch-screen mobile phones we&#8217;ve tested&#8230;Unfortunately, after putting the Zune HD toe-to-toe with the third-generation Touch (32GB model), there&#8217;s no questioning the Safari browser&#8217;s all-around supremacy.&#8221; </p>
<p>Let me get this straight &#8211; if you&#8217;ve never used anything but a Zune (ah, the good old days of 95% Windows penetration), then the browser on the Zune will &#8220;knock your socks off&#8221;.</p>
<p>It gets better:</p>
<p>&#8220;The Microsoft Zune HD is a beautiful device&#8211;inside and out&#8211;that presents one of the first appealing and affordable alternatives to the Apple iPod Touch. Microsoft deserves praise for taking the Zune&#8217;s music and video experience beyond the standard set by Apple. What remains to be seen is whether people will value Microsoft&#8217;s premium media experience enough to resist the increasingly multipurpose appeal of the iPod.&#8221; </p>
<p>So, will you, the consumer, be wise enough to see the value in a &#8220;premium media experience&#8221; (whatever that is) as presented on a truly beautiful device, or will you be seduced by that dirty multipurpose appeal that Apple&#8217;s selling?</p>
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		<title>By: Argosy</title>
		<link>http://www.roughlydrafted.com/2009/09/17/microsoft-uses-adware-model-to-pay-for-zune-hd-apps/comment-page-1/#comment-21076</link>
		<dc:creator>Argosy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Sep 2009 16:34:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It is truly amazing to me that MS is injecting &quot;large&quot; ads like this right out of the chute.  The precedence this sets is sure to sour any one on purchasing the Zune HD!  It seems like a bit of a nit pic, but this is first impression time.  Do you really want every review site to write,  &#039;nice apps, but the ads suck&#039;.

MS is not at the luxury to set expectations here.  Customers&#039; expectations have already been set by the Apple App store, et al:  $1-$2 or free maybe with some small banner ads.  MS is already at a disadvantage by not launching with an App. store.  This would seem to be a great time to bundle some really cool applications for free, not aggravate with lengthy ads.

At first you always give away the candy for free, then start &quot;charging&quot; after people become your customer.  I can&#039;t imagine a better way to kill any chance of  the Zune HD succeeding.

Wow, just amazing....It&#039;s as if MS doesn&#039;t even want to succeed here.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It is truly amazing to me that MS is injecting &#8220;large&#8221; ads like this right out of the chute.  The precedence this sets is sure to sour any one on purchasing the Zune HD!  It seems like a bit of a nit pic, but this is first impression time.  Do you really want every review site to write,  &#8216;nice apps, but the ads suck&#8217;.</p>
<p>MS is not at the luxury to set expectations here.  Customers&#8217; expectations have already been set by the Apple App store, et al:  $1-$2 or free maybe with some small banner ads.  MS is already at a disadvantage by not launching with an App. store.  This would seem to be a great time to bundle some really cool applications for free, not aggravate with lengthy ads.</p>
<p>At first you always give away the candy for free, then start &#8220;charging&#8221; after people become your customer.  I can&#8217;t imagine a better way to kill any chance of  the Zune HD succeeding.</p>
<p>Wow, just amazing&#8230;.It&#8217;s as if MS doesn&#8217;t even want to succeed here.</p>
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		<title>By: daGUY</title>
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		<dc:creator>daGUY</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Sep 2009 16:24:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>FTA: &quot;On the Zune HD, Microsoft is likely to scare away more customers with its heavy-handed advertising that it can possibly attract with a handful of free adware-supported games.&quot;

Completely agreed. I can deal with text ads and other stuff that isn&#039;t distracting, but ads that actually block what I&#039;m trying to look at are unbearable. And this situation with the Zune is even worse than I thought, because I didn&#039;t realize that the ads are shown *before* the app loads (not while it loads). 30 seconds to load a simple game? I&#039;d rather not even bother.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>FTA: &#8220;On the Zune HD, Microsoft is likely to scare away more customers with its heavy-handed advertising that it can possibly attract with a handful of free adware-supported games.&#8221;</p>
<p>Completely agreed. I can deal with text ads and other stuff that isn&#8217;t distracting, but ads that actually block what I&#8217;m trying to look at are unbearable. And this situation with the Zune is even worse than I thought, because I didn&#8217;t realize that the ads are shown *before* the app loads (not while it loads). 30 seconds to load a simple game? I&#8217;d rather not even bother.</p>
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		<title>By: daGUY</title>
		<link>http://www.roughlydrafted.com/2009/09/17/microsoft-uses-adware-model-to-pay-for-zune-hd-apps/comment-page-1/#comment-21074</link>
		<dc:creator>daGUY</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Sep 2009 16:14:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@The Mad Hatter: there&#039;s plenty of adblocking software for Safari too. I use Safari AdBlock + GlimmerBlocker, which takes care of pretty much any ad imaginable.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@The Mad Hatter: there&#8217;s plenty of adblocking software for Safari too. I use Safari AdBlock + GlimmerBlocker, which takes care of pretty much any ad imaginable.</p>
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		<title>By: ChuckO</title>
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		<dc:creator>ChuckO</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Sep 2009 16:13:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Interesting that with a successful example like Google&#039;s low key ads Microsoft goes with big, ugly and annoying. Hard to imagine how it&#039;s possible to make the wrong decisions so consistently.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Interesting that with a successful example like Google&#8217;s low key ads Microsoft goes with big, ugly and annoying. Hard to imagine how it&#8217;s possible to make the wrong decisions so consistently.</p>
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		<title>By: string</title>
		<link>http://www.roughlydrafted.com/2009/09/17/microsoft-uses-adware-model-to-pay-for-zune-hd-apps/comment-page-1/#comment-21067</link>
		<dc:creator>string</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Sep 2009 10:36:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I can&#039;t believe that every time you want to play a game of chess you have to watch or at least run this ad. Amazing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I can&#8217;t believe that every time you want to play a game of chess you have to watch or at least run this ad. Amazing.</p>
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		<title>By: Berend Schotanus</title>
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		<dc:creator>Berend Schotanus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Sep 2009 09:08:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nice explanation of the App Store model. Maybe it is because I follow your blog for some time that this seems quite natural to me and hard to understand why Microsoft follows a different direction. I remember you explained the potential of this model even before the App Store was announced.

Nice neutral tone about Microsoft as well.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nice explanation of the App Store model. Maybe it is because I follow your blog for some time that this seems quite natural to me and hard to understand why Microsoft follows a different direction. I remember you explained the potential of this model even before the App Store was announced.</p>
<p>Nice neutral tone about Microsoft as well.</p>
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