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	<title>Comments on: Scammers offer to help iPhone developers defraud Apple</title>
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	<description>Daniel Eran Dilger in San Francisco</description>
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		<title>By: august</title>
		<link>http://www.roughlydrafted.com/2009/04/07/scammers-offer-to-help-iphone-developers-defraud-apple/comment-page-1/#comment-18371</link>
		<dc:creator>august</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Apr 2009 05:46:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Apparently DED&#039;s been writing a bit too much as Prince and now thinks that he&#039;s a separate person. Or maybe the schizto meds have stopped working.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Apparently DED&#8217;s been writing a bit too much as Prince and now thinks that he&#8217;s a separate person. Or maybe the schizto meds have stopped working.</p>
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		<title>By: NormM</title>
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		<dc:creator>NormM</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Apr 2009 18:38:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Presumably the real scam that Apple needs to watch out for is developers spending their advertising dollars buying their own apps.  Because of the 70/30 split this only costs 30% of what they spend.

It would be easy to spot this if the app is bought multiple times from the same iTunes account, so for this to work the developer needs to use thousands of accounts.  This would be easy to spot if they use credit cards unless they have thousands of different cards, all with different names on them.  Using fake iTunes gift cards is presumably easier.  Probably the easiest fix for Apple is, in ranking apps, to simply ignore all purchases that came from gift cards that weren&#039;t purchased with a credit card.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Presumably the real scam that Apple needs to watch out for is developers spending their advertising dollars buying their own apps.  Because of the 70/30 split this only costs 30% of what they spend.</p>
<p>It would be easy to spot this if the app is bought multiple times from the same iTunes account, so for this to work the developer needs to use thousands of accounts.  This would be easy to spot if they use credit cards unless they have thousands of different cards, all with different names on them.  Using fake iTunes gift cards is presumably easier.  Probably the easiest fix for Apple is, in ranking apps, to simply ignore all purchases that came from gift cards that weren&#8217;t purchased with a credit card.</p>
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		<title>By: darwiniandude</title>
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		<dc:creator>darwiniandude</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Apr 2009 10:15:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Apple needs to nip this in the bud quick smart.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Apple needs to nip this in the bud quick smart.</p>
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		<title>By: Trade Jim News &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Scammers offer to help iPhone developers defraud Apple</title>
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		<dc:creator>Trade Jim News &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Scammers offer to help iPhone developers defraud Apple</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Apr 2009 06:57:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] AppleInsider has obtained an email sent to the developer of TiltMeter [...]  Go to Source [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] AppleInsider has obtained an email sent to the developer of TiltMeter [...]  Go to Source [...]</p>
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		<title>By: qka</title>
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		<dc:creator>qka</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Apr 2009 05:50:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In followup, an operation like this comes to mind:
http://www.infoworld.com/d/security-central/heres-how-i-steal-passwords-officer-602</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In followup, an operation like this comes to mind:<br />
<a href="http://www.infoworld.com/d/security-central/heres-how-i-steal-passwords-officer-602" rel="nofollow">http://www.infoworld.com/d/security-central/heres-how-i-steal-passwords-officer-602</a></p>
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		<title>By: qka</title>
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		<dc:creator>qka</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Apr 2009 05:32:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If you and other news organizations know of this, what&#039;s to say that that some developer hasn&#039;t decided to work with Apple (if not Apple itself) to sting the scammers? The scammers&#039; greed will force them to come into the open to claim their proceeds from the developer and that&#039;s where their identity can be discovered and they can be prosecuted. Alternately, a coalition of developers agrees to go along with the scammers, then reneges of the agreement and keeps the money. All in all, this sounds like a lame brained scam.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If you and other news organizations know of this, what&#8217;s to say that that some developer hasn&#8217;t decided to work with Apple (if not Apple itself) to sting the scammers? The scammers&#8217; greed will force them to come into the open to claim their proceeds from the developer and that&#8217;s where their identity can be discovered and they can be prosecuted. Alternately, a coalition of developers agrees to go along with the scammers, then reneges of the agreement and keeps the money. All in all, this sounds like a lame brained scam.</p>
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