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	<title>Comments on: Apple and EFF argue over iPhone jailbreaking</title>
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	<description>Daniel Eran Dilger in San Francisco</description>
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		<title>By: Wired&#8217;s David Kravets assails Apple over the EFF&#8217;s DMCA iPhone case &#8212; RoughlyDrafted Magazine</title>
		<link>http://www.roughlydrafted.com/2009/02/13/apple-and-eff-argue-over-iphone-jailbreaking/comment-page-1/#comment-19495</link>
		<dc:creator>Wired&#8217;s David Kravets assails Apple over the EFF&#8217;s DMCA iPhone case &#8212; RoughlyDrafted Magazine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Jul 2009 20:59:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Claims &#124; Threat Level &#124; Wired.com The EFF&#8217;s Oddly Informed War Apple&#8217;s iPhone Apps Apple and EFF argue over iPhone jailbreaking Jailbreak stores plot to plunder iPhone app [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Claims | Threat Level | Wired.com The EFF&#8217;s Oddly Informed War Apple&#8217;s iPhone Apps Apple and EFF argue over iPhone jailbreaking Jailbreak stores plot to plunder iPhone app [...]</p>
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		<title>By: The EFF&#8217;s Oddly Informed War Apple&#8217;s iPhone Apps &#8212; RoughlyDrafted Magazine</title>
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		<dc:creator>The EFF&#8217;s Oddly Informed War Apple&#8217;s iPhone Apps &#8212; RoughlyDrafted Magazine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Jun 2009 05:07:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Apple and EFF argue over iPhone jailbreaking  Prophylactic Platform Protection  The EFF only cites ideological optimism that destroying Apple&#8217;s managed platform would result in a utopian market where innovation would flourish because Apple wouldn&#8217;t be there to stop anything. The problem is that Apple wouldn&#8217;t be there to cultivate this happy garden commune either. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Apple and EFF argue over iPhone jailbreaking  Prophylactic Platform Protection  The EFF only cites ideological optimism that destroying Apple&#8217;s managed platform would result in a utopian market where innovation would flourish because Apple wouldn&#8217;t be there to stop anything. The problem is that Apple wouldn&#8217;t be there to cultivate this happy garden commune either. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: gus2000</title>
		<link>http://www.roughlydrafted.com/2009/02/13/apple-and-eff-argue-over-iphone-jailbreaking/comment-page-1/#comment-17501</link>
		<dc:creator>gus2000</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Feb 2009 04:29:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And now Mozilla and Skype are getting in on the action, coming out in support of the EFF and the DMCA exemption.  Not surprising, given that they sell no hardware to jailbreak, and would directly profit from open hardware.

Note that jailbreaking is both easy and widespread, despite its current status as illegal (or at the very least unsupported).  The exemption would only bring the code crackers out of the closet.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And now Mozilla and Skype are getting in on the action, coming out in support of the EFF and the DMCA exemption.  Not surprising, given that they sell no hardware to jailbreak, and would directly profit from open hardware.</p>
<p>Note that jailbreaking is both easy and widespread, despite its current status as illegal (or at the very least unsupported).  The exemption would only bring the code crackers out of the closet.</p>
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		<title>By: Interesting iPhone Security Tidbits sprinkled in Apple-vs-EFF article &#171; Jason J. Gullickson</title>
		<link>http://www.roughlydrafted.com/2009/02/13/apple-and-eff-argue-over-iphone-jailbreaking/comment-page-1/#comment-17442</link>
		<dc:creator>Interesting iPhone Security Tidbits sprinkled in Apple-vs-EFF article &#171; Jason J. Gullickson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Feb 2009 14:14:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] http://www.roughlydrafted.com/2009/02/13/apple-and-eff-argue-over-iphone-jailbreaking/  &#160; [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] <a href="http://www.roughlydrafted.com/2009/02/13/apple-and-eff-argue-over-iphone-jailbreaking/" rel="nofollow">http://www.roughlydrafted.com/2009/02/13/apple-and-eff-argue-over-iphone-jailbreaking/</a>  &nbsp; [...]</p>
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		<title>By: NormM</title>
		<link>http://www.roughlydrafted.com/2009/02/13/apple-and-eff-argue-over-iphone-jailbreaking/comment-page-1/#comment-17418</link>
		<dc:creator>NormM</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Feb 2009 03:52:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>From a software-trust and bug perspective, the iPhone is not very different than an OS X laptop.  How would these arguments sound if Apple tried to make them about restricting laptop software?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>From a software-trust and bug perspective, the iPhone is not very different than an OS X laptop.  How would these arguments sound if Apple tried to make them about restricting laptop software?</p>
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		<title>By: KathyLee</title>
		<link>http://www.roughlydrafted.com/2009/02/13/apple-and-eff-argue-over-iphone-jailbreaking/comment-page-1/#comment-17401</link>
		<dc:creator>KathyLee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Feb 2009 11:03:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, has Apple actually gone after the jailbreaker writers?  They seemed to have left them alone (for the Tinkerers) but having that activity be explicitly condoned in the DMCA is what they&#039;re upset about.  I say fix the DMCA overall and don&#039;t attack Apple specifically.  They have produced something truly innovative and the App publishers want their software protected from piracy.  As for the schmucks who jailbreak their phone and complain to Apple when their iPhone doesn&#039;t work - there should be some way that iTunes can determine if a connected phone is jailbroken and then have Apple know not to waste any support time on these folks.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, has Apple actually gone after the jailbreaker writers?  They seemed to have left them alone (for the Tinkerers) but having that activity be explicitly condoned in the DMCA is what they&#8217;re upset about.  I say fix the DMCA overall and don&#8217;t attack Apple specifically.  They have produced something truly innovative and the App publishers want their software protected from piracy.  As for the schmucks who jailbreak their phone and complain to Apple when their iPhone doesn&#8217;t work &#8211; there should be some way that iTunes can determine if a connected phone is jailbroken and then have Apple know not to waste any support time on these folks.</p>
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		<title>By: Dorotea</title>
		<link>http://www.roughlydrafted.com/2009/02/13/apple-and-eff-argue-over-iphone-jailbreaking/comment-page-1/#comment-17388</link>
		<dc:creator>Dorotea</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Feb 2009 20:15:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I expect that  Apple has to protect its investments.   Apple doesn&#039;t want a jailbroken iPhone to disrupt the AT&amp;T cell network.  Apple doesn&#039;t want to support jailbroken iPhones.   If they don&#039;t fight to protect their IP investments then I think they could lose the rights.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I expect that  Apple has to protect its investments.   Apple doesn&#8217;t want a jailbroken iPhone to disrupt the AT&amp;T cell network.  Apple doesn&#8217;t want to support jailbroken iPhones.   If they don&#8217;t fight to protect their IP investments then I think they could lose the rights.</p>
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		<title>By: Joel</title>
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		<dc:creator>Joel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Feb 2009 11:34:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;By installing Linux on my PC, I agreed to void whatever warranty was left. &quot;

Must be some strange warranty. I&#039;ve wiped Windows and installed Linux Dell stuff before and they&#039;ve come around and fixed their hardware when it failed within the warrently period. The same with other hardware manufacters... Perhaps you need to get a less paranoid manufactrer. :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;By installing Linux on my PC, I agreed to void whatever warranty was left. &#8221;</p>
<p>Must be some strange warranty. I&#8217;ve wiped Windows and installed Linux Dell stuff before and they&#8217;ve come around and fixed their hardware when it failed within the warrently period. The same with other hardware manufacters&#8230; Perhaps you need to get a less paranoid manufactrer. :)</p>
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		<title>By: Joe Sa</title>
		<link>http://www.roughlydrafted.com/2009/02/13/apple-and-eff-argue-over-iphone-jailbreaking/comment-page-1/#comment-17380</link>
		<dc:creator>Joe Sa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Feb 2009 06:20:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ wordwarrior &quot;By installing Linux on my PC, I agreed to void whatever warranty was left. I accepted that risk. I’m sure those who genuinely want to tinker with the iPhone accept that risk as well.&quot;
Then why are they calling Apple support? Why did they cry &amp; moan when Apple updated the iPhone &amp; their phones stopped working?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ wordwarrior &#8220;By installing Linux on my PC, I agreed to void whatever warranty was left. I accepted that risk. I’m sure those who genuinely want to tinker with the iPhone accept that risk as well.&#8221;<br />
Then why are they calling Apple support? Why did they cry &amp; moan when Apple updated the iPhone &amp; their phones stopped working?</p>
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		<title>By: wordwarrior</title>
		<link>http://www.roughlydrafted.com/2009/02/13/apple-and-eff-argue-over-iphone-jailbreaking/comment-page-1/#comment-17378</link>
		<dc:creator>wordwarrior</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Feb 2009 23:09:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have no problem with people installing a modified OS as long as they don&#039;t distribute it, and especially, don&#039;t try to sell it for profit.   As long as people are buying iPhones and nobody&#039;s having their apps ripped off (or networks aren&#039;t being abused), I have no problem with it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have no problem with people installing a modified OS as long as they don&#8217;t distribute it, and especially, don&#8217;t try to sell it for profit.   As long as people are buying iPhones and nobody&#8217;s having their apps ripped off (or networks aren&#8217;t being abused), I have no problem with it.</p>
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