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	<title>Comments on: It&#8217;s not over yet, but we can laugh about it.</title>
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	<description>Daniel Eran Dilger in San Francisco</description>
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		<title>By: PhilipWing</title>
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		<dc:creator>PhilipWing</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Oct 2008 06:15:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Interesting combination of roasting and complementing by both U.S. Senators.

IMDB doesn&#039;t have this Robin Williams bit from Man of the Year, so I&#039;ll paraphrase it as well as I can:

There are no Red States or Blue States. We are the *United States*.

Rolling Stone - Is that a rock being used to hit someone who won The Lottery or description of a road trip to Black Rock? :) I guess it&#039;s also a magic phrase when properly invoked can get you a free room at the Beverly Hills Hotel... :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Interesting combination of roasting and complementing by both U.S. Senators.</p>
<p>IMDB doesn&#8217;t have this Robin Williams bit from Man of the Year, so I&#8217;ll paraphrase it as well as I can:</p>
<p>There are no Red States or Blue States. We are the *United States*.</p>
<p>Rolling Stone &#8211; Is that a rock being used to hit someone who won The Lottery or description of a road trip to Black Rock? :) I guess it&#8217;s also a magic phrase when properly invoked can get you a free room at the Beverly Hills Hotel&#8230; :)</p>
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		<title>By: alansky</title>
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		<dc:creator>alansky</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Oct 2008 19:23:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In exactly what way did McCain come off as &quot;honorable&quot; at this event? Not in my book.</description>
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		<title>By: Sumtingwong</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sumtingwong</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 19 Oct 2008 11:25:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>John E,

Of course, how could I forget!  That bastion of responsible reporting, the pinnacle of unbiased prose: Rolling Stone magazine!  I will be sure to pick up a copy just so I can read what every other outlet is saying about McCain...

It is good to see some lightheartedness among the candidates; some of the voters should have as much class.

&lt;em&gt;[Ad hominem attacks aren&#039;t as substantive as pointing out what was actually wrong about the article. ]&lt;/em&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>John E,</p>
<p>Of course, how could I forget!  That bastion of responsible reporting, the pinnacle of unbiased prose: Rolling Stone magazine!  I will be sure to pick up a copy just so I can read what every other outlet is saying about McCain&#8230;</p>
<p>It is good to see some lightheartedness among the candidates; some of the voters should have as much class.</p>
<p><em>[Ad hominem attacks aren't as substantive as pointing out what was actually wrong about the article. ]</em></p>
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		<title>By: Berend Schotanus</title>
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		<dc:creator>Berend Schotanus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Oct 2008 15:46:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think it is very fortunate both candidates can treat their opponents like this.

My worst fear would be the United Stated are becoming the Divorced States, that blue states and red states are no longer able to trust each other and live in one nation. There is such a huge difference in lifestyle and mentality between high tech urban communities on the East Coast and West Coast and rural agricultural communities that populate the major part of the American surface. When urban America took a spurt in development and innovation in the 1990&#039;s, the other part were unable to follow, which resulted in the infamous &quot;cultural wars&quot; and the Bush era.
And that was in better times when there was enough money to keep everybody happy. Now the world is facing economic challenges that will require major sacrifice and adaptation from most Americans, which could make polarisation much more grim.

So whoever the winner is, he will have to be able to listen to the &quot;other&quot; part of the country. And it won&#039;t do harm either when the loosing candidate is able to persuade his own supporters to accept the new president as the President of the whole United States.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think it is very fortunate both candidates can treat their opponents like this.</p>
<p>My worst fear would be the United Stated are becoming the Divorced States, that blue states and red states are no longer able to trust each other and live in one nation. There is such a huge difference in lifestyle and mentality between high tech urban communities on the East Coast and West Coast and rural agricultural communities that populate the major part of the American surface. When urban America took a spurt in development and innovation in the 1990&#8217;s, the other part were unable to follow, which resulted in the infamous &#8220;cultural wars&#8221; and the Bush era.<br />
And that was in better times when there was enough money to keep everybody happy. Now the world is facing economic challenges that will require major sacrifice and adaptation from most Americans, which could make polarisation much more grim.</p>
<p>So whoever the winner is, he will have to be able to listen to the &#8220;other&#8221; part of the country. And it won&#8217;t do harm either when the loosing candidate is able to persuade his own supporters to accept the new president as the President of the whole United States.</p>
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		<title>By: John E</title>
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		<dc:creator>John E</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Oct 2008 08:37:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>can we please get past this &quot;honorable&quot; bullshit?

john mccain&#039;s &quot;honor&quot; is fake. it&#039;s a con. he is patently driven by raw, desperate ambition at this point of his life. yes, he has charm. and is a great drinking buddy no doubt and, back in the day, a bon hom womanizer/raconteur (that ain&#039;t honor, that was getting laid a lot).*

no truly honorable person would do or say what he has been doing and saying in this campaign. it&#039;s a fake legend of his life he has created, and the mainstream has bought into. boy are they suckers. but Dan i thought you had more savvy.

*read last week&#039;s Rolling Stone piece for details</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>can we please get past this &#8220;honorable&#8221; bullshit?</p>
<p>john mccain&#8217;s &#8220;honor&#8221; is fake. it&#8217;s a con. he is patently driven by raw, desperate ambition at this point of his life. yes, he has charm. and is a great drinking buddy no doubt and, back in the day, a bon hom womanizer/raconteur (that ain&#8217;t honor, that was getting laid a lot).*</p>
<p>no truly honorable person would do or say what he has been doing and saying in this campaign. it&#8217;s a fake legend of his life he has created, and the mainstream has bought into. boy are they suckers. but Dan i thought you had more savvy.</p>
<p>*read last week&#8217;s Rolling Stone piece for details</p>
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		<title>By: gus2000</title>
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		<dc:creator>gus2000</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Oct 2008 23:55:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh yeah, and McCain was funny as hell once he loosened up a bit.  He and Gore need to start their own support group.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh yeah, and McCain was funny as hell once he loosened up a bit.  He and Gore need to start their own support group.</p>
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		<title>By: gus2000</title>
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		<dc:creator>gus2000</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Oct 2008 23:53:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m bracing myself for the inevitable flood of Nader and Paul supporters who will run in, screaming &quot;See?  They&#039;re the same!  They&#039;re all the same unless you vote for [Insert Independent Candidate&#039;s Name Here]!!!&quot;

Well, it&#039;s not so much of a flood.  More of a very loud splash.  :)

I think both camps are succumbing to the polling inevitabilities, and are working on their post-election posturing of bipartisan cooperation.  Let&#039;s hope THAT lasts well into 2009.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m bracing myself for the inevitable flood of Nader and Paul supporters who will run in, screaming &#8220;See?  They&#8217;re the same!  They&#8217;re all the same unless you vote for [Insert Independent Candidate's Name Here]!!!&#8221;</p>
<p>Well, it&#8217;s not so much of a flood.  More of a very loud splash.  :)</p>
<p>I think both camps are succumbing to the polling inevitabilities, and are working on their post-election posturing of bipartisan cooperation.  Let&#8217;s hope THAT lasts well into 2009.</p>
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		<title>By: nat</title>
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		<dc:creator>nat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Oct 2008 22:54:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think most Americans would prefer this kind of civility and (to a certain, responsible extent) lightheartedness between the candidates and their campaigns in future elections (if not the remainder of this one).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think most Americans would prefer this kind of civility and (to a certain, responsible extent) lightheartedness between the candidates and their campaigns in future elections (if not the remainder of this one).</p>
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		<title>By: Tom-MBILF</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tom-MBILF</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Oct 2008 22:19:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>On Hulu, a little higher quality copy:
http://www.hulu.com/watch/39634/msnbc-decision-08-mccain-gets-laughs
http://www.hulu.com/watch/39638/msnbc-decision-08-obama%E2%80%99s-stand-up</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>On Hulu, a little higher quality copy:<br />
<a href="http://www.hulu.com/watch/39634/msnbc-decision-08-mccain-gets-laughs" rel="nofollow">http://www.hulu.com/watch/39634/msnbc-decision-08-mccain-gets-laughs</a><br />
<a href="http://www.hulu.com/watch/39638/msnbc-decision-08-obama%E2%80%99s-stand-up" rel="nofollow">http://www.hulu.com/watch/39638/msnbc-decision-08-obama%E2%80%99s-stand-up</a></p>
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