Comments on: Myth 9: iPhone Unable to Penetrate Europe Due to Symbian Dominance

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By: Silencio

Silencio — Thu, 09 Oct 2008 19:32:37 +0000

@daGUY: it was only a prototype HP iPod that had that weird bluish color. I think I saw Carly Fiorina holding one onstage at a presentation and that was the last of it. The iPods that HP did end up selling at Radio Shack or whatever looked like regular old iPods IIRC, they just had an HP logo on the back in addition to the Apple logo.

Speaking of touchscreens from vendors who traditionally don’t do them: how about a little something on the Blackberry Storm? It seems to have the usual iPhone haters all in a lather at the moment, and it does apparently have multitouch.

By: lowededwookie

lowededwookie — Wed, 08 Oct 2008 22:53:20 +0000

@LuisDias

There is no way I’m going to go easy on Nokia. Everything about their phones suck.

I used to sell these along with Motorola and every one of their phones were of poor build quality. At the time their phones were top heavy so every Nokia that came in for repairs had smashed screens because the phone when dropped would ALWAYS drop in such a way the screen would hit first. Of one model we had 30 of 32 sold come in with the same problem.

Meanwhile a Motorola sold at the same time came in for a new battery because it had just been dropped onto concrete from a 4 story height and the clip broke which was the only design flaw of the Motorolas at the time.

My current work phone is a Nokia and even at full volume I can hardly hear it let alone the interface flaws.

Nokia simply don’t make good phones. Thank god for my iPhone.

By: beanie

beanie — Wed, 08 Oct 2008 18:25:58 +0000

I found out Nokia released a touchscreen phone back in year 2004-2005 with model Nokia 7710. So the new touchscreen phone released by Nokia this month is not their first. I suppose it did not catch on back then.

By: SaudiMac

SaudiMac — Wed, 08 Oct 2008 12:20:11 +0000

@John Muir
It’s interesting because Jordan and Egypt are still not listed in the iTunes App Store country list while Saudi Arabia is and we don’t have an iPhone deal until now..
Qatar is the 3rd country in the initial list (which is NOT part of Europe .. http://www.saudimac.com/2008/07/09/dear-steve-qatar-is-not-in-europe-its-in-asia/ ).
The main problem is that non of our carriers is a “global” company like O2/Orange/etc. The closest thing to that is Zain (www.zain.com) which covers over 20 countries in the middle east and central Africa! I guess they are the closest to get the deal…

Khaled.

By: John Muir

John Muir — Wed, 08 Oct 2008 11:38:48 +0000

@SaudiMac

Don’t worry, they’re getting to you. Jordan and Egypt were both on Steve’s map back at the iPhone 2.0 launch: which is really something, given that even Canada didn’t get iPhone 1.0!

As someone from Britain, I can vouch that once Apple get started in a country, they really keep going. It wasn’t so long ago when we had our first Apple Store. They’re in half of our cities now, more constantly coming. The original iPhone was a hard sell here as 3G is mature and expected by customers. The new model is selling very nicely.

Nokia have a global head start. Watching Apple catch up will be lots of fun!

By: coldspell

coldspell — Wed, 08 Oct 2008 06:03:19 +0000

As _iCeb0x_ points out, Nokia sells phones, not operating systems. Nokia is platform agnostic, almost to a fault. They have to support redundant development teams (and third-party developers) for S40, S60, UIQ, and Maemo.

How long until we see an Android phone from Nokia? I bet they’re already working on it. Android would give Nokia an open platform with modern development tools, plenty of hype, and someone else picks up the development costs (Google). Android could be everything that Nokia had hoped Symbian would be.

By: _iCeb0x_

_iCeb0x_ — Tue, 07 Oct 2008 23:48:04 +0000

Just to make things clear, let me rephrase comment #22: “try to drag or pinch an interface element on any other phone touchscreen on the market and tell me what happens.”

And, on comment #23, about Nokia being “not even as successful as Windows Mobile”, it’s my remark, not Dan’s opinion. I say that because it seems Microsoft has more partners with WinMobile than Symbian has with their OS, not because of shipped units.

By: _iCeb0x_

_iCeb0x_ — Tue, 07 Oct 2008 23:41:48 +0000

@Rich
“If Symbian selling 80 million units a year is failing, I’d hate to be any of the other players in the market.”

Symbian does not sell phones. They develop and sell an operating system. Dan meant that Symbian is failing because it’s not even as successful and Windows Mobile in the smartphone operating systems market.

Nokia sells cell phones and they are doing pretty well, leading the worldwide cell phone market.

Symbian is failing, not Nokia.

And note that Dan hasn’t said that Nokia was failing…