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	<description>Daniel Eran Dilger in San Francisco</description>
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		<title>By: Myth 7: iPhone Buyers will Flock to Android &#8212; RoughlyDrafted Magazine</title>
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		<dc:creator>Myth 7: iPhone Buyers will Flock to Android &#8212; RoughlyDrafted Magazine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Oct 2008 04:14:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Breakdown: Android G1, iPhone share little in common [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Myth 6: iPhone Developers will Flock to Android &#8212; RoughlyDrafted Magazine</title>
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		<dc:creator>Myth 6: iPhone Developers will Flock to Android &#8212; RoughlyDrafted Magazine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Oct 2008 22:59:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Breakdown: Android G1, iPhone share little in common Google’s Android Market Guarantees Problems for Users Google’s Android Platform Faces Five Tough Obstacles [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Breakdown: Android G1, iPhone share little in common &#124; Unofficial iPhone Blog</title>
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		<dc:creator>Breakdown: Android G1, iPhone share little in common &#124; Unofficial iPhone Blog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Sep 2008 18:44:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: The Mad Hatter</title>
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		<dc:creator>The Mad Hatter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Sep 2008 01:44:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;b&gt;Well, in the short term, Microsoft is not going to be particularly badly affected. Windows smartphones tend to be used more by business users than consumers. Android at present, does not have any significant enterprise features. These features should start arriving over the next year or so but until then Android competes with Apple rather than Microsoft. I would guess initial sales would be to people who want something like the iPhone but do not want to switch carriers.&lt;/b&gt;

Microsoft has almost no share in the enterprise market, that is mostly held by RIM&#039;s Blackberry. In fact from what I&#039;ve seen, I don&#039;t think that icrosoft OS Smart Phones are suitable for enterprise use (which doesn&#039;t mean someone isn&#039;t using them somewhere, but none of the large multinationals I deal with use them).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><b>Well, in the short term, Microsoft is not going to be particularly badly affected. Windows smartphones tend to be used more by business users than consumers. Android at present, does not have any significant enterprise features. These features should start arriving over the next year or so but until then Android competes with Apple rather than Microsoft. I would guess initial sales would be to people who want something like the iPhone but do not want to switch carriers.</b></p>
<p>Microsoft has almost no share in the enterprise market, that is mostly held by RIM&#8217;s Blackberry. In fact from what I&#8217;ve seen, I don&#8217;t think that icrosoft OS Smart Phones are suitable for enterprise use (which doesn&#8217;t mean someone isn&#8217;t using them somewhere, but none of the large multinationals I deal with use them).</p>
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		<title>By: dallasmay</title>
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		<dc:creator>dallasmay</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Sep 2008 23:36:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>stupid no spell check on the iPhone. Sorry about the last post. I&#039;ve always been poor with english but not typically that bad.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>stupid no spell check on the iPhone. Sorry about the last post. I&#8217;ve always been poor with english but not typically that bad.</p>
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		<title>By: dallasmay</title>
		<link>http://www.roughlydrafted.com/2008/09/25/breakdown-android-g1-iphone-share-little-in-common/comment-page-1/#comment-13947</link>
		<dc:creator>dallasmay</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Sep 2008 23:24:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Joel, Gmail is as much beta as the iPhone us. These days alpha, beta and 1.0&#039;s make little sence. 5 years ago when a software product was shipped it had to be perfect because there was no way to update it. That is just not the case today. Today users expect regular, free updates. Google understands that and has change the definition of what beta is. 

And I have no problem with google buying up copanies and calling it theirs. 90% of innovation on the corporate level is hiring the right people to do the job. Boole recongized greatness and paied the developers for their work. Very nicely I might add too.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Joel, Gmail is as much beta as the iPhone us. These days alpha, beta and 1.0&#8217;s make little sence. 5 years ago when a software product was shipped it had to be perfect because there was no way to update it. That is just not the case today. Today users expect regular, free updates. Google understands that and has change the definition of what beta is. </p>
<p>And I have no problem with google buying up copanies and calling it theirs. 90% of innovation on the corporate level is hiring the right people to do the job. Boole recongized greatness and paied the developers for their work. Very nicely I might add too.</p>
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		<title>By: w00master</title>
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		<dc:creator>w00master</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Sep 2008 18:09:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Joel

&quot;Are you going to trust your email to something that isn&#039;t even finished?&quot;
I&#039;d trust GMail far more than Apple&#039;s Me.com e-mail services.

Btw, the gPhone preorders are sold out:
http://gizmodo.com/5055858/t+mobile-g1-sold-out-pre+order-ends</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Joel</p>
<p>&#8220;Are you going to trust your email to something that isn&#8217;t even finished?&#8221;<br />
I&#8217;d trust GMail far more than Apple&#8217;s Me.com e-mail services.</p>
<p>Btw, the gPhone preorders are sold out:<br />
<a href="http://gizmodo.com/5055858/t+mobile-g1-sold-out-pre+order-ends" rel="nofollow">http://gizmodo.com/5055858/t+mobile-g1-sold-out-pre+order-ends</a></p>
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		<title>By: Joel</title>
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		<dc:creator>Joel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Sep 2008 09:27:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Check out Google Docs, Google Calendar, Picasa, GMail, the upgrades to YouTube, Google Maps, Google Reader, iGoogle, their development tools.&quot;

Of which, at least half are technologies developed by other companies and bought up by Google. And GMail is still in beta. Are you going to trust your email to something that isn&#039;t even finished...? 

The original iPhone was sold as a complete product with no missing parts. Yep, developers wanted tools to develop on it because of the potential, and people will always wanted new features, but I don;t recall Apple telling me to wait if I wanted to sync the device I would have to wait...

For Google, Android is a great idea. Its also a fun playground for developers. I&#039;m just not sure about mainstream users...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Check out Google Docs, Google Calendar, Picasa, GMail, the upgrades to YouTube, Google Maps, Google Reader, iGoogle, their development tools.&#8221;</p>
<p>Of which, at least half are technologies developed by other companies and bought up by Google. And GMail is still in beta. Are you going to trust your email to something that isn&#8217;t even finished&#8230;? </p>
<p>The original iPhone was sold as a complete product with no missing parts. Yep, developers wanted tools to develop on it because of the potential, and people will always wanted new features, but I don;t recall Apple telling me to wait if I wanted to sync the device I would have to wait&#8230;</p>
<p>For Google, Android is a great idea. Its also a fun playground for developers. I&#8217;m just not sure about mainstream users&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: dallasmay</title>
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		<dc:creator>dallasmay</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Sep 2008 22:08:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Joel
Google has done lots of things very new and innovative. Check out Google Docs, Google Calendar, Picasa, GMail, the upgrades to YouTube, Google Maps, Google Reader, iGoogle, their development tools. You can bet that all of these things will be coming to Android, and (hopefully) will work seamlessly together. Did you really think that Google was just going to let all the time an investment into these web applications just sit there collecting dust? No! Right now, Apple has no document creation tools for the iPhone. Microsoft has Office for Windows Mobile. Google can easily compete and surpass both with its Google Doc&#039;s tools. Further, they could bring the innovations they have made with GMail to the phone and surpass the iPhone or the Blackberry in usability.

Yes, this first installment is kinda week, but that is what people said about the iPhone at first too. &quot;It doesn&#039;t have 3rd party Apps.&quot; &quot;It doesn&#039;t have GPS&quot;. &quot;It doesn&#039;t dry my hair.&quot; Apple was able to fix 2/3 of those complaints with a simple software upgrade. Google will be able to fix any of them, because they don&#039;t limit the hardware. Granted, this is also a weakness. But give them a chance to show what they have before ripping them down.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Joel<br />
Google has done lots of things very new and innovative. Check out Google Docs, Google Calendar, Picasa, GMail, the upgrades to YouTube, Google Maps, Google Reader, iGoogle, their development tools. You can bet that all of these things will be coming to Android, and (hopefully) will work seamlessly together. Did you really think that Google was just going to let all the time an investment into these web applications just sit there collecting dust? No! Right now, Apple has no document creation tools for the iPhone. Microsoft has Office for Windows Mobile. Google can easily compete and surpass both with its Google Doc&#8217;s tools. Further, they could bring the innovations they have made with GMail to the phone and surpass the iPhone or the Blackberry in usability.</p>
<p>Yes, this first installment is kinda week, but that is what people said about the iPhone at first too. &#8220;It doesn&#8217;t have 3rd party Apps.&#8221; &#8220;It doesn&#8217;t have GPS&#8221;. &#8220;It doesn&#8217;t dry my hair.&#8221; Apple was able to fix 2/3 of those complaints with a simple software upgrade. Google will be able to fix any of them, because they don&#8217;t limit the hardware. Granted, this is also a weakness. But give them a chance to show what they have before ripping them down.</p>
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		<title>By: airmanchairman</title>
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		<dc:creator>airmanchairman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Sep 2008 17:25:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree with Daniel that the feature and capability omissions from the G1 are curious, to say the least. Quite puzzling, in fact. 

I can only surmise that, similar to UK Party politics when a challenge is to be made to the existing leadership of one of the main political parties, the first step is to nominate a &quot;stalking horse&quot; challenger - one with virtually no hope of success, followed by the emergence of a real heavyweight contender after the waters have been tested.

We wait with bated breath...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with Daniel that the feature and capability omissions from the G1 are curious, to say the least. Quite puzzling, in fact. </p>
<p>I can only surmise that, similar to UK Party politics when a challenge is to be made to the existing leadership of one of the main political parties, the first step is to nominate a &#8220;stalking horse&#8221; challenger &#8211; one with virtually no hope of success, followed by the emergence of a real heavyweight contender after the waters have been tested.</p>
<p>We wait with bated breath&#8230;</p>
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