Comments on: The Street: Steve Jobs Health Fears Key to Our Stock Manipulation Game

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Bove’s Blips » Blog Archive » Steve Jobs Only Had a Hangover — Tue, 07 Oct 2008 00:09:00 +0000

[...] “serious” reports about the health of Apple CEO Steve Jobs over the summer (such as Cramer’s stock manipulation game and Businessweek’s The Real Issue About Steve’s Health), and the mistakenly published [...]

By: michael shriver

michael shriver — Mon, 07 Jul 2008 08:23:13 +0000

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By: DoctorOtto

DoctorOtto — Tue, 24 Jun 2008 18:31:04 +0000

Honestly, if I were Steve Jobs, I would get some of my Hollywood friends to do a makeup job on me the morning of the next big keynote, and I’d walk out on stage in a great big fat suit. Black mock turtleneck and jeans, and looking about 400, 450 lbs. Waddle out there like PC in that one bloatware commercial. I mean no offense to anyone out there who might be a few pounds over their ideal weight, but this idiocy has got to stop. Plus, “There’s a big difference between all dead and mostly dead.”

By: marsviolet

marsviolet — Fri, 20 Jun 2008 16:54:27 +0000

@ worker201

A 20 year plan might say, “Enter the cell phone market,” but without a visionary guy like Jobs there to call the shots you’ll never end up with an iPhone. Look at the market today. A hundred million copycat piles of barely functional commodity crap . . . plus the iPhone. Take Jobs out of the equation and all you have are those hundred million copycat piles of barely functional commodity crap.

By: worker201

worker201 — Thu, 19 Jun 2008 22:15:52 +0000

Interesting discussion, but I think it’s all irrelevant. You’re kidding yourself if you think Jobs hasn’t laid out a 20 year plan, with product release dates and technology investment strategies already etched in stone. Much like God/Allah/etc, his plan is incomprehensible to most of us, but you know it’s there. If Jobs were to die or step down, it would be like a nuclear submarine - the safe containing the secret codes and executive orders would be opened, and the troops would keep on doing exactly what they are supposed to do.

As an aside, I hope other companies are learning from Apple. While we can all agree that Steve Jobs is a creative visionary with an eerie 6th sense, he can’t be the only one of his kind out there. Yet no other companies seem to put guys like him in the driver’s seat. It’s all red ink and policy wankers. If more companies started valuing ideas over Dilbert-style micromanagement, the world would be a much better place.

By: MikieV

MikieV — Thu, 19 Jun 2008 16:05:16 +0000

Jobs’ health is a legitimate concern for investors - sadly - only because so many “investors” would sell APPL in a panic if anything was perceived to reduce/impair his running of the company.

But, -rational- investors took note of that when Jobs’ pancreatic cancer was announced, and factored it into their investment strategy… the same as they would for Michael Dell’s comings/goings at his namesake company. Or, the supposed exodus of creative people from Yahoo…

I just can’t stand Cramer’s theatrics…

By: drx1

drx1 — Thu, 19 Jun 2008 12:55:25 +0000

So Steve is gone (maybe he goes off the grid and lives in Boliva) … Apple’s stock goes down, yet the iPhone 3G goes nuts (in a good way) and they sell 35 million in 09. Apple’s stock goes up, but think overall Apple will slowly decline like they did in the ’90s…. maybe they have a Jobs2 in backup - maybe someone will rise to the occasion, but as we saw in the 90’s, nobody really did any better and most were far worse (even when Jobs was a rookie).

I do think its funny about the Jobs never wearing makeup … it does prove a point - he’s not as much smoke & mirrors and people think … and it is important, since this whole issue of “how Steve looks” is front an center since WWDC keynote.

Cramer is a nut.
Jobs is a visionary.

Certainly Jobs didnt design much (if any) of the new products, but he approved them and probably made them 100% better than they would have been … it is questionable if anyone else can do as good. Looks at B Gates/S Ballmer at MS … Gates is stepping out and MS is floundering (this may not be related, however it is interesting).

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By: marsviolet

marsviolet — Thu, 19 Jun 2008 03:43:00 +0000

Look, Cramer’s a nut, but in this case he is, like a stopped clock, actually right for once about how critical Jobs is to Apple’s success. All those artists and craftsmen would flounder without Jobs giving them direction. I can’t stress this strongly enough. It’s a terrible mistake to underestimate his importance. It’s like taking Disney out of Disney — when Walt died the company never recovered. They floundered for 20 years, and although Disney as a corporation eventually grew in size and the stock went up, the magic was gone. Disney hasn’t done anything truly great since.

By: David Dennis

David Dennis — Thu, 19 Jun 2008 01:05:22 +0000

I think Apple is much better off with Jobs in place - your piece sounds almost like it’s putting down his contribution to the company and really, that’s a bit out of line.

That being said, I agree with the general premise that Apple seems to have a healthy depth of talent nowadays and so it will be able to continue without him.

The “make great products” message has been seared into the minds of Apple workers and with the success the company has now achieved, I think that would be difficult to dislodge.

Steve was essential in building the transformation to MacOS X, but it looks like there is now a great team behind it and that will continue. Likewise with iPhone and other products.

The company will survive and indeed thrive without Steve, but Steve will always be remembered as a figure that made the impossible happen. Hopefully his legacy will inspire the upcoming generation of leaders for decades to come.