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		<title>By: OS 10.5 - OS 10.6. Will Snow Leopard Support EVERY Intel Mac? - Mac-Forums.com</title>
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		<dc:creator>OS 10.5 - OS 10.6. Will Snow Leopard Support EVERY Intel Mac? - Mac-Forums.com</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Aug 2009 19:39:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] will be used as much as possible but when needed, the OS will use 32bit binaries.  As stated in this article, &quot;For that reason, all system apps in Snow Leopard will be 32+64 Universal Binaries, [...]</description>
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		<title>By: OS 10.5 - Snow Leopard and G5s - Page 2 - Mac-Forums.com</title>
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		<dc:creator>OS 10.5 - Snow Leopard and G5s - Page 2 - Mac-Forums.com</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Jun 2009 14:12:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] As a result, PowerPC apps typically run a little slower in 64-bit mode than in 32-bit mode.    Myths of Snow Leopard 2: 32-bit Support </description>
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		<title>By: OS 10.5 - Snow Leopard and G5s - Page 2 - Mac-Forums.com</title>
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		<dc:creator>OS 10.5 - Snow Leopard and G5s - Page 2 - Mac-Forums.com</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Jun 2009 01:02:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] As a result, PowerPC apps typically run a little slower in 64-bit mode than in 32-bit mode.    Myths of Snow Leopard 2: 32-bit Support </description>
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		<title>By: OS 10.5 - Third party applications in Snow Leopard - Mac-Forums.com</title>
		<link>http://www.roughlydrafted.com/2008/06/17/myths-of-snow-leopard-2-32-bit-support/comment-page-1/#comment-19028</link>
		<dc:creator>OS 10.5 - Third party applications in Snow Leopard - Mac-Forums.com</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Jun 2009 00:56:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Myths of Snow Leopard 2: 32-bit Support &#8212; RoughlyDrafted Magazine       __________________ It&#039;s a &quot;Mac&quot;, not a &quot;MAC&quot;. There is no such thing as a &quot;MACintosh&quot; computer. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Myths of Snow Leopard 2: 32-bit Support &#8212; RoughlyDrafted Magazine       __________________ It&#8217;s a &quot;Mac&quot;, not a &quot;MAC&quot;. There is no such thing as a &quot;MACintosh&quot; computer. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Mac Pro - Performance vs PC - Mac-Forums.com</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mac Pro - Performance vs PC - Mac-Forums.com</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Dec 2008 22:22:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] All plugins will also need to provide 64-bit support as well, including printer drivers.&quot; Myths of Snow Leopard 2: 32-bit Support &#8212; RoughlyDrafted Magazine   Is leopard a real 64bit OS? - InsanelyMac Forum  Mac OS X for Intel Macs supports PAE and the NX [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] All plugins will also need to provide 64-bit support as well, including printer drivers.&quot; Myths of Snow Leopard 2: 32-bit Support &#8212; RoughlyDrafted Magazine   Is leopard a real 64bit OS? &#8211; InsanelyMac Forum  Mac OS X for Intel Macs supports PAE and the NX [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Road to Mac OS X 10.6 Snow Leopard: 64-Bits &#8212; RoughlyDrafted Magazine</title>
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		<dc:creator>Road to Mac OS X 10.6 Snow Leopard: 64-Bits &#8212; RoughlyDrafted Magazine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 31 Aug 2008 21:46:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] supplied a 64-bit version of libsystem, the system library handling most of its Unix APIs. This followed the LP64 model to allow broad compatibility with 64-bit versions of Linux and commercial Unix. It also delivered a [...]</description>
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		<title>By: metromacs blog &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Road to Mac OS X 10.6 Snow Leopard: 64-Bits</title>
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		<dc:creator>metromacs blog &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Road to Mac OS X 10.6 Snow Leopard: 64-Bits</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Aug 2008 12:59:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] a 64-bit version of libsystem, the system library handling most of its Unix APIs. This&#160;followed the LP64 model&#160;to allow broad compatibility with 64-bit versions of Linux and commercial Unix. It also [...]</description>
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		<title>By: ulric</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Jun 2008 22:14:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@danieleran
That article on techtarget.com is poorly worded: Wow64 is not an &quot;emulator&quot;. It is a 32-bit sub-system that forwards the Win32 API calls to the 64-bit API. The instructions are not emulated and run-time performance is not affected as the word suggests.

There is no mesurable lost in applications speed, whether games or business, which makes sense, since most common applications will be 32-bit for a long time.

Why did Microsoft make a separate 64-bit version Window SKU?  It was to make a clean break with the old driver models and some obsolete API, old shell extensions, etc.  The 64-bit version is more secure and fixes some holes.  It was to do exactly what people are asking them to do: make a clean break with some of the oldest things.  They also dropped all support for DOS and 16-bit windows application in Windows 64-bit.

It is precisly part of the plan that people will be gradually buying new machines with Vista 64-bit.  That&#039;s how you deal with a very large user base.

If windows 64-bit still ran all the 32-bit old drivers and old DOS apps, then you&#039;d complain that Windows is held back by all the backward compatibility it needs to do.  If they breaks it, then you complain it isn&#039;t as backward compatible..

Leopard is not a true 64-bit operating system, the kernel is still 32-bit, that&#039;s how they &quot;remain compatible&quot;.  

I&#039;d also point out that Apple makes no 64-bit applications, none at all, including their FCP suite. I&#039;m only aware of Houdini for OS X being 64-bit.  On Windows, all the majors CAD, multimedia, and video (Autodesk, Avid, Avid, Softimage, Maxxon Cinema 64, NewTek) are 64-bit.  Pretty much all the drivers you need including graphics drivers are there in 64-bit form.  64-bit was really made for these markets, and server-side.  It&#039;s ok if the consumer doesn&#039;t jump on 64-bit immediately.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@danieleran<br />
That article on techtarget.com is poorly worded: Wow64 is not an &#8220;emulator&#8221;. It is a 32-bit sub-system that forwards the Win32 API calls to the 64-bit API. The instructions are not emulated and run-time performance is not affected as the word suggests.</p>
<p>There is no mesurable lost in applications speed, whether games or business, which makes sense, since most common applications will be 32-bit for a long time.</p>
<p>Why did Microsoft make a separate 64-bit version Window SKU?  It was to make a clean break with the old driver models and some obsolete API, old shell extensions, etc.  The 64-bit version is more secure and fixes some holes.  It was to do exactly what people are asking them to do: make a clean break with some of the oldest things.  They also dropped all support for DOS and 16-bit windows application in Windows 64-bit.</p>
<p>It is precisly part of the plan that people will be gradually buying new machines with Vista 64-bit.  That&#8217;s how you deal with a very large user base.</p>
<p>If windows 64-bit still ran all the 32-bit old drivers and old DOS apps, then you&#8217;d complain that Windows is held back by all the backward compatibility it needs to do.  If they breaks it, then you complain it isn&#8217;t as backward compatible..</p>
<p>Leopard is not a true 64-bit operating system, the kernel is still 32-bit, that&#8217;s how they &#8220;remain compatible&#8221;.  </p>
<p>I&#8217;d also point out that Apple makes no 64-bit applications, none at all, including their FCP suite. I&#8217;m only aware of Houdini for OS X being 64-bit.  On Windows, all the majors CAD, multimedia, and video (Autodesk, Avid, Avid, Softimage, Maxxon Cinema 64, NewTek) are 64-bit.  Pretty much all the drivers you need including graphics drivers are there in 64-bit form.  64-bit was really made for these markets, and server-side.  It&#8217;s ok if the consumer doesn&#8217;t jump on 64-bit immediately.</p>
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		<title>By: Myths of Snow Leopard 1: PowerPC Support &#8212; RoughlyDrafted Magazine</title>
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		<dc:creator>Myths of Snow Leopard 1: PowerPC Support &#8212; RoughlyDrafted Magazine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Jun 2008 13:39:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] have panicked that Snow Leopard will kill support for even 32-bit Intel Macs. That is addressed in Myths of Snow Leopard 2: 32-bit Support.  [Update: Warren Gish forwarded the following comment on PowerPC and 64-bit computing in Snow [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Myths of Snow Leopard 5: No Carbon! &#8212; RoughlyDrafted Magazine</title>
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		<dc:creator>Myths of Snow Leopard 5: No Carbon! &#8212; RoughlyDrafted Magazine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Jun 2008 13:26:41 +0000</pubDate>
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