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	<description>Daniel Eran Dilger in San Francisco</description>
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		<title>By: Windows Phone 7: Microsoft&#8217;s third failed attempt to be Apple &#8212; RoughlyDrafted Magazine</title>
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		<dc:creator>Windows Phone 7: Microsoft&#8217;s third failed attempt to be Apple &#8212; RoughlyDrafted Magazine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Mar 2010 03:13:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Mobile EEE PC, UMPC, and Internet Tablets vs the iPhone Apple wasn&#8217;t selling the iPod as a premium priced, specialized tool for creative professionals (as it had with the Mac in the late 80s); it was targeting the iPod at the broad consumer market. Microsoft really had no experience in selling mobile devices and no real success in marketing a Windows-like software layer to mobile device makers. [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Anticipating the Apple Tablet &#8212; RoughlyDrafted Magazine</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anticipating the Apple Tablet &#8212; RoughlyDrafted Magazine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Jan 2010 23:46:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Mobile EEE PC, UMPC, and Internet Tablets vs the iPhone Ars&#8217; Jon Stokes hails Chrome OS as the second coming of the PC [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Amazon Kindle sells half as well as Microsoft Zune &#8212; RoughlyDrafted Magazine</title>
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		<dc:creator>Amazon Kindle sells half as well as Microsoft Zune &#8212; RoughlyDrafted Magazine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Feb 2009 06:01:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Egregious Incompetence of Palm Mobile EEE PC, UMPC, and Internet Tablets vs the iPhone Zune Sales Still In the Toilet Microsoft’s Zune crashes as iPod sales [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Macworld 09: Apple blows expectations &#8212; RoughlyDrafted Magazine</title>
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		<dc:creator>Macworld 09: Apple blows expectations &#8212; RoughlyDrafted Magazine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Jan 2009 05:27:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Rebrickulous: Cutting Through The MacBook Rumors &#8212; RoughlyDrafted Magazine</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rebrickulous: Cutting Through The MacBook Rumors &#8212; RoughlyDrafted Magazine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Oct 2008 05:52:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Cocoa for Windows + Flash Killer = SproutCore &#8212; RoughlyDrafted Magazine</title>
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		<dc:creator>Cocoa for Windows + Flash Killer = SproutCore &#8212; RoughlyDrafted Magazine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Jun 2008 22:44:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Mobile EEE PC, UMPC, and Internet Tablets vs the iPhone: Linux&#8217; Mobile Problem [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Calgarian</title>
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		<dc:creator>Calgarian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Jun 2008 22:34:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks, Daniel.  I believe the screens on the iPod Touch and iPhone are too small to compete in this UMPC/Tablet market.  Apple would compete better with an iPod Touch with a screen in the 7 to 9&quot; range.  I build on this opinion as part of my WWDC predictions here.

http://www.destinyofshadow.com/blog/?p=500</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks, Daniel.  I believe the screens on the iPod Touch and iPhone are too small to compete in this UMPC/Tablet market.  Apple would compete better with an iPod Touch with a screen in the 7 to 9&#8243; range.  I build on this opinion as part of my WWDC predictions here.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.destinyofshadow.com/blog/?p=500" rel="nofollow">http://www.destinyofshadow.com/blog/?p=500</a></p>
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		<title>By: neoanderthal</title>
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		<dc:creator>neoanderthal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 May 2008 23:43:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve been assigned one of those Windows Mobile smartphones from work - an HTC Twist or Tilt or some such.
I&#039;m not such a big fan of it - it works ok, but has poor battery life and using it for anything other than as a phone reminds me of the proverbial 5# bag filled with 10#  of material. The interface is tiny - you really *must* use the stylus, as everything seems scaled to work with the stylus&#039; &quot;footprint&quot;, and it works far too much like a standard Windows desktop.
I was not particularly interested in the iPhone (or any other smartphone, for that matter), but the iPod Touch piqued my interest. My girl and I went to a local Apple store to have a hands-on look at them (after being drawn into Apple&#039;s trap with the video tour of the iPod Touch) and see what they were like. We were both sold, and now both of us have a Touch. It&#039;s actually made me re-think the whole iPhone thing, seeing how easy to use the Touch was. When I look at some of the features of the Windows Mobile and Blackberry Curves we have at work and how it compares with the Touch&#039;s equivalents, I can imagine having access to the Touch&#039;s cool stuff over a mostly-available EDGE network, and the thought really strikes a chord with me now.

I planning on purchasing a tablet PC, but the only reason I&#039;m interested in it is for art. I&#039;d just like to have a reasonably-sized LCD/digitizer combo that I could drag around with me without too much fuss. I know that the sort of market that someone like me represents isn&#039;t significant, most especially for Apple, so I suspect I&#039;ll have to purchase a PC tablet for something like this. I have to admit, though, that the thought of an Eee-sized display with multitouch would be pretty cool - maybe a subnotebook form factor with a multitouch display? I don&#039;t know... I do love the Touch, though, and seriously, if you don&#039;t understand what a revolution in user interfaces a multitouch display is, I&#039;d have to say you haven&#039;t used it enough in comparison with your standard computer interfaces available these days. It&#039;s like those goofy Star Trek:TNG mock-up displays, but with real-life functionality and usefulness.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve been assigned one of those Windows Mobile smartphones from work &#8211; an HTC Twist or Tilt or some such.<br />
I&#8217;m not such a big fan of it &#8211; it works ok, but has poor battery life and using it for anything other than as a phone reminds me of the proverbial 5# bag filled with 10#  of material. The interface is tiny &#8211; you really *must* use the stylus, as everything seems scaled to work with the stylus&#8217; &#8220;footprint&#8221;, and it works far too much like a standard Windows desktop.<br />
I was not particularly interested in the iPhone (or any other smartphone, for that matter), but the iPod Touch piqued my interest. My girl and I went to a local Apple store to have a hands-on look at them (after being drawn into Apple&#8217;s trap with the video tour of the iPod Touch) and see what they were like. We were both sold, and now both of us have a Touch. It&#8217;s actually made me re-think the whole iPhone thing, seeing how easy to use the Touch was. When I look at some of the features of the Windows Mobile and Blackberry Curves we have at work and how it compares with the Touch&#8217;s equivalents, I can imagine having access to the Touch&#8217;s cool stuff over a mostly-available EDGE network, and the thought really strikes a chord with me now.</p>
<p>I planning on purchasing a tablet PC, but the only reason I&#8217;m interested in it is for art. I&#8217;d just like to have a reasonably-sized LCD/digitizer combo that I could drag around with me without too much fuss. I know that the sort of market that someone like me represents isn&#8217;t significant, most especially for Apple, so I suspect I&#8217;ll have to purchase a PC tablet for something like this. I have to admit, though, that the thought of an Eee-sized display with multitouch would be pretty cool &#8211; maybe a subnotebook form factor with a multitouch display? I don&#8217;t know&#8230; I do love the Touch, though, and seriously, if you don&#8217;t understand what a revolution in user interfaces a multitouch display is, I&#8217;d have to say you haven&#8217;t used it enough in comparison with your standard computer interfaces available these days. It&#8217;s like those goofy Star Trek:TNG mock-up displays, but with real-life functionality and usefulness.</p>
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		<title>By: midtoad</title>
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		<dc:creator>midtoad</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 May 2008 01:03:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>you wrote &quot;Last fall, Asus launched the EEE PC, a low cost mini laptop sold for around $300. The device was notable because it was introduced running Linux rather than Windows. However, despite lots of media attention, the device only sold 300,000 units last year across three months of holiday sales. While that device isn’t directly comparable in functionality with the iPhone, the fact that Apple sold 2.3 million units in the same quarter indicates that Apple picked a far higher volume market to address with its $400 product.

Like the UMPC and Newton, the EEE PC isn’t small enough to fit into a pocket, and is only practical for users who want a low powered laptop replacement for writing or other uses compatible with its limited capacity. HP and other makers are now rushing to offer products in this mini-laptop category, but it’s not clear that there is any more demand for a mini-laptop than for the tablet/UMPC computers Microsoft has been unable to sell for the last decade.&quot;. 

Your article makes it sound like the Eee PC has been somewhat of a failure, and a poor seller. In fact, it&#039;s been a runaway success.  Last I heard, over 2 million have been sold. Amazon&#039;s top-10 best-seller list currently includes 4 different flavours of the Eee PC. And every PC maker out there is rushing to copy the thing.  that&#039;s hardly a failure. 

The Eee PC does one thing well the iPhone doesn&#039;t: data entry. Composing any message of more than a few words is a laborious pain with the iPhone or the Touch.  Though the Eee PC&#039;s keyboard is small and takes some getting used to, it&#039;s still way faster and easier than pecking away on the iPhone. 

I&#039;m eagerly waiting for June to see if Apple addresses the data entry failings of the iPhone.  Just give us a non-crippled bluetooth stack and I&#039;ll be happy to put my new Apple bluetooth keyboard to use on a new iPhone instead of using with my Eee PC!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>you wrote &#8220;Last fall, Asus launched the EEE PC, a low cost mini laptop sold for around $300. The device was notable because it was introduced running Linux rather than Windows. However, despite lots of media attention, the device only sold 300,000 units last year across three months of holiday sales. While that device isn’t directly comparable in functionality with the iPhone, the fact that Apple sold 2.3 million units in the same quarter indicates that Apple picked a far higher volume market to address with its $400 product.</p>
<p>Like the UMPC and Newton, the EEE PC isn’t small enough to fit into a pocket, and is only practical for users who want a low powered laptop replacement for writing or other uses compatible with its limited capacity. HP and other makers are now rushing to offer products in this mini-laptop category, but it’s not clear that there is any more demand for a mini-laptop than for the tablet/UMPC computers Microsoft has been unable to sell for the last decade.&#8221;. </p>
<p>Your article makes it sound like the Eee PC has been somewhat of a failure, and a poor seller. In fact, it&#8217;s been a runaway success.  Last I heard, over 2 million have been sold. Amazon&#8217;s top-10 best-seller list currently includes 4 different flavours of the Eee PC. And every PC maker out there is rushing to copy the thing.  that&#8217;s hardly a failure. </p>
<p>The Eee PC does one thing well the iPhone doesn&#8217;t: data entry. Composing any message of more than a few words is a laborious pain with the iPhone or the Touch.  Though the Eee PC&#8217;s keyboard is small and takes some getting used to, it&#8217;s still way faster and easier than pecking away on the iPhone. </p>
<p>I&#8217;m eagerly waiting for June to see if Apple addresses the data entry failings of the iPhone.  Just give us a non-crippled bluetooth stack and I&#8217;ll be happy to put my new Apple bluetooth keyboard to use on a new iPhone instead of using with my Eee PC!</p>
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		<title>By: Ephilei</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ephilei</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 May 2008 00:30:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Apple announced a program to enable developers to create custom server-side network applications based on web standards.&quot; And you labeled that as a good thing? Don&#039;t you remember how pissed devs were at WWDC when Jobs announced that?! What is significant about the programming of iPhone vs Newton is that the Newton tried luring devs but the devs begged Apple to develop for iPhone.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Apple announced a program to enable developers to create custom server-side network applications based on web standards.&#8221; And you labeled that as a good thing? Don&#8217;t you remember how pissed devs were at WWDC when Jobs announced that?! What is significant about the programming of iPhone vs Newton is that the Newton tried luring devs but the devs begged Apple to develop for iPhone.</p>
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