Comments on: Five Factors Shifting the Future of Malware and Platform Security http://www.roughlydrafted.com/2008/04/02/five-factors-shifting-the-future-of-malware-and-platform-security/ Daniel Eran Dilger in San Francisco Sun, 21 Mar 2010 05:23:17 -0400 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: Wired’s David Kravets assails Apple over the EFF’s DMCA iPhone case — RoughlyDrafted Magazine http://www.roughlydrafted.com/2008/04/02/five-factors-shifting-the-future-of-malware-and-platform-security/comment-page-2/#comment-19496 Wired’s David Kravets assails Apple over the EFF’s DMCA iPhone case — RoughlyDrafted Magazine Wed, 29 Jul 2009 20:59:30 +0000 http://www.roughlydrafted.com/2008/04/02/five-factors-shifting-the-future-of-malware-and-platform-security/#comment-19496 [...] break iPhone push messaging, blame Apple Five Factors Shifting the Future of Malware and Platform Security Google’s Android Market Guarantees Problems for [...] [...] break iPhone push messaging, blame Apple Five Factors Shifting the Future of Malware and Platform Security Google’s Android Market Guarantees Problems for [...]

]]> By: The Mac Malware Myth — RoughlyDrafted Magazine http://www.roughlydrafted.com/2008/04/02/five-factors-shifting-the-future-of-malware-and-platform-security/comment-page-2/#comment-16944 The Mac Malware Myth — RoughlyDrafted Magazine Fri, 30 Jan 2009 20:12:47 +0000 http://www.roughlydrafted.com/2008/04/02/five-factors-shifting-the-future-of-malware-and-platform-security/#comment-16944 [...] Five Factors Shifting the Future of Malware and Platform Security [...] [...] Five Factors Shifting the Future of Malware and Platform Security [...]

]]> By: Myths of Snow Leopard 3: Mac Sidelined for iPhone — RoughlyDrafted Magazine http://www.roughlydrafted.com/2008/04/02/five-factors-shifting-the-future-of-malware-and-platform-security/comment-page-1/#comment-9588 Myths of Snow Leopard 3: Mac Sidelined for iPhone — RoughlyDrafted Magazine Thu, 19 Jun 2008 06:49:30 +0000 http://www.roughlydrafted.com/2008/04/02/five-factors-shifting-the-future-of-malware-and-platform-security/#comment-9588 [...] That was in marked contrast to the stagnant PC market, which observers had repeatedly blamed on the delays of Vista. Microsoft was desperately working to ship Vista because higher end consumers appeared to be bored with the existing Windows XP, particularly in contrast to flashy new Macs running the no longer new but still competitive Tiger. In the fall of 2006, Microsoft even began handing out vouchers for Vista to new PC buyers and started fraudulently labeling PCs that could not possibly run the new OS acceptably as “Vista Capable” in a desperate bid to prod the dying PC market. Five Factors Shifting the Future of Malware and Platform Security [...] [...] That was in marked contrast to the stagnant PC market, which observers had repeatedly blamed on the delays of Vista. Microsoft was desperately working to ship Vista because higher end consumers appeared to be bored with the existing Windows XP, particularly in contrast to flashy new Macs running the no longer new but still competitive Tiger. In the fall of 2006, Microsoft even began handing out vouchers for Vista to new PC buyers and started fraudulently labeling PCs that could not possibly run the new OS acceptably as “Vista Capable” in a desperate bid to prod the dying PC market. Five Factors Shifting the Future of Malware and Platform Security [...]

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]]> By: Cooles Poster http://www.roughlydrafted.com/2008/04/02/five-factors-shifting-the-future-of-malware-and-platform-security/comment-page-1/#comment-7490 Cooles Poster Fri, 18 Apr 2008 10:16:31 +0000 http://www.roughlydrafted.com/2008/04/02/five-factors-shifting-the-future-of-malware-and-platform-security/#comment-7490 [...] siehe RoughlyDraftedMagazine [...] [...] siehe RoughlyDraftedMagazine [...]

]]> By: Joel http://www.roughlydrafted.com/2008/04/02/five-factors-shifting-the-future-of-malware-and-platform-security/comment-page-1/#comment-7109 Joel Sun, 06 Apr 2008 09:25:40 +0000 http://www.roughlydrafted.com/2008/04/02/five-factors-shifting-the-future-of-malware-and-platform-security/#comment-7109 "Have you actually got anything to back this up? I’ve been to computer shops and department stores in Thailand, Malaysia, Singapore, India and China, and I must say, Windows is a long way from being in danger of the most popular OS." I've never been to India or China, but my direct experience of the others is that I've never seen Linux in computer stores, and the only Macs I've seen where in high-end shopping malls. In Malaysia Windows Xp costs 10 Malaysian Ringits. Or about £ 1.50. Windows Vista is the same. Buying a Mac, in order to get OS X is significantly more, and costs around a months salary. Ubuntu is slowliy making headway due to its easy-of-use, but its along way before being sold in stores... “Have you actually got anything to back this up? I’ve been to computer shops and department stores in Thailand, Malaysia, Singapore, India and China, and I must say, Windows is a long way from being in danger of the most popular OS.”

I’ve never been to India or China, but my direct experience of the others is that I’ve never seen Linux in computer stores, and the only Macs I’ve seen where in high-end shopping malls. In Malaysia Windows Xp costs 10 Malaysian Ringits. Or about £ 1.50. Windows Vista is the same. Buying a Mac, in order to get OS X is significantly more, and costs around a months salary.

Ubuntu is slowliy making headway due to its easy-of-use, but its along way before being sold in stores…

]]> By: IainW http://www.roughlydrafted.com/2008/04/02/five-factors-shifting-the-future-of-malware-and-platform-security/comment-page-1/#comment-7101 IainW Sun, 06 Apr 2008 01:43:18 +0000 http://www.roughlydrafted.com/2008/04/02/five-factors-shifting-the-future-of-malware-and-platform-security/#comment-7101 @John E "#1: the biggest is that could only possibly become true in the US and first world internationally, where Mac is well-positioned. in the second world, there is much less Mac presence, and in the third world, virtually none. the second and third world run on Windows, like it or not (a lot is prirateware)." Have you actually got anything to back this up? I've been to computer shops and department stores in Thailand, Malaysia, Singapore, India and China, and I must say, Windows is a long way from being in danger of the most popular OS. In one store in Thailand I couldn't find a single Windows computer for sale among the 30 odd Linux running PC's and a couple of entry level Mac's. Is it any wonder? To get another language onto a Windows machine, you have to install it all over again, and pick a new language. Sure you can install extensions from an existing English PC install, but its just not the same - all the icons and menus are still in English, but you can, maybe, type in Thai, Mandarin, Bahasa. Switch to a Mac or a Linux box, and wonder of wonder, other languages are a part of the thinking of every part of the OS. In the Mac, changing from one language to another for input is a shortcut key and a cheap keyboard with the right symbols on it. Changing the complete language set is a quick trip back to the install CD. Very much the same for the overall language in use. Yes, Windows does exist in Asia and other developing countries, but if it is a battleground as you suggest, the best tool will win. Obviously being able to read the screen is a big bonus, and Linux and Mac have that stitched up, Windows still thinks the world begins and ends with English. You might think that a store will sell a cheap PC with Linux so that the new owner can go home and pirate Windows. Possibly, but I don't think that happens much. I think 2nd and 3rd world countries are experts at putting free items lying around to good and unique use and this is especially true in computers where the open standards nature of Linux or Mac have more appeal. To go back to your statement, I have seen more Macs for sale in these types of countries as a portion of total system options than in department stores in Australia and the US, where often the only Apple product is an iPod. Kids in Singapore might be buying Windows to play games, but families in rural Thailand and China are buying 2nd hand Macbooks and Mini's from Ebay. @John E

“#1: the biggest is that could only possibly become true in the US and first world internationally, where Mac is well-positioned. in the second world, there is much less Mac presence, and in the third world, virtually none. the second and third world run on Windows, like it or not (a lot is prirateware).”

Have you actually got anything to back this up? I’ve been to computer shops and department stores in Thailand, Malaysia, Singapore, India and China, and I must say, Windows is a long way from being in danger of the most popular OS. In one store in Thailand I couldn’t find a single Windows computer for sale among the 30 odd Linux running PC’s and a couple of entry level Mac’s.

Is it any wonder? To get another language onto a Windows machine, you have to install it all over again, and pick a new language. Sure you can install extensions from an existing English PC install, but its just not the same – all the icons and menus are still in English, but you can, maybe, type in Thai, Mandarin, Bahasa.

Switch to a Mac or a Linux box, and wonder of wonder, other languages are a part of the thinking of every part of the OS. In the Mac, changing from one language to another for input is a shortcut key and a cheap keyboard with the right symbols on it. Changing the complete language set is a quick trip back to the install CD. Very much the same for the overall language in use.

Yes, Windows does exist in Asia and other developing countries, but if it is a battleground as you suggest, the best tool will win. Obviously being able to read the screen is a big bonus, and Linux and Mac have that stitched up, Windows still thinks the world begins and ends with English.

You might think that a store will sell a cheap PC with Linux so that the new owner can go home and pirate Windows. Possibly, but I don’t think that happens much.

I think 2nd and 3rd world countries are experts at putting free items lying around to good and unique use and this is especially true in computers where the open standards nature of Linux or Mac have more appeal.

To go back to your statement, I have seen more Macs for sale in these types of countries as a portion of total system options than in department stores in Australia and the US, where often the only Apple product is an iPod. Kids in Singapore might be buying Windows to play games, but families in rural Thailand and China are buying 2nd hand Macbooks and Mini’s from Ebay.

]]> By: Ephilei http://www.roughlydrafted.com/2008/04/02/five-factors-shifting-the-future-of-malware-and-platform-security/comment-page-1/#comment-7050 Ephilei Fri, 04 Apr 2008 17:24:38 +0000 http://www.roughlydrafted.com/2008/04/02/five-factors-shifting-the-future-of-malware-and-platform-security/#comment-7050 Every time a switcher buys a Mac, an angel gets its wings. Every time a switcher buys a Mac, an angel gets its wings.

]]> By: Berend Schotanus http://www.roughlydrafted.com/2008/04/02/five-factors-shifting-the-future-of-malware-and-platform-security/comment-page-1/#comment-7037 Berend Schotanus Fri, 04 Apr 2008 10:44:54 +0000 http://www.roughlydrafted.com/2008/04/02/five-factors-shifting-the-future-of-malware-and-platform-security/#comment-7037 @ Shunnabunich: "Perfection is not required, only the pursuit of it." Good attitude. :-) @ Shunnabunich:

“Perfection is not required, only the pursuit of it.”
Good attitude. :-)

]]> By: Shunnabunich http://www.roughlydrafted.com/2008/04/02/five-factors-shifting-the-future-of-malware-and-platform-security/comment-page-1/#comment-7009 Shunnabunich Thu, 03 Apr 2008 17:23:20 +0000 http://www.roughlydrafted.com/2008/04/02/five-factors-shifting-the-future-of-malware-and-platform-security/#comment-7009 @ Berend: "- You update because you want a flawless system and enjoy the comfort and carelessness of such a system. - But the fact you update implies your pre-updated system did have flaws. When you plan returning updates it even implies your post-updated system has flaws." I don't know about you, but I update because I want a better system, not a mythical flawless one. I know it's already better than Windows could hope to be, and each update makes it a little better on top of that. Perfection is not required, only the pursuit of it. :) @ Berend:

“- You update because you want a flawless system and enjoy the comfort and carelessness of such a system.
- But the fact you update implies your pre-updated system did have flaws. When you plan returning updates it even implies your post-updated system has flaws.”

I don’t know about you, but I update because I want a better system, not a mythical flawless one. I know it’s already better than Windows could hope to be, and each update makes it a little better on top of that. Perfection is not required, only the pursuit of it. :)

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