Comments on: The Unavoidable Malware Myth: Why Apple Won’t Inherit Microsoft’s Malware Crown http://www.roughlydrafted.com/2008/04/01/the-unavoidable-malware-myth-why-apple-wont-inherit-microsofts-malware-crown/ Daniel Eran Dilger in San Francisco Tue, 7 Oct 2008 14:54:54 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.6 By: Google’s Android Market Guarantees Problems for Users — RoughlyDrafted Magazine http://www.roughlydrafted.com/2008/04/01/the-unavoidable-malware-myth-why-apple-wont-inherit-microsofts-malware-crown/#comment-11757 Google’s Android Market Guarantees Problems for Users — RoughlyDrafted Magazine Sat, 30 Aug 2008 01:57:05 +0000 http://www.roughlydrafted.com/2008/04/01/the-unavoidable-malware-myth-why-apple-wont-inherit-microsofts-malware-crown/#comment-11757 [...] Ten Myths of Leopard: 9 Apple is Spying on Users! The Unavoidable Malware Myth: Why Apple Won’t Inherit Microsoft’s Malware Crown [...] [...] Ten Myths of Leopard: 9 Apple is Spying on Users! The Unavoidable Malware Myth: Why Apple Won’t Inherit Microsoft’s Malware Crown [...]

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]]> By: Windows Vista, 7, and Singularity: The New Copland, Gershwin, Taligent — RoughlyDrafted Magazine http://www.roughlydrafted.com/2008/04/01/the-unavoidable-malware-myth-why-apple-wont-inherit-microsofts-malware-crown/#comment-7680 Windows Vista, 7, and Singularity: The New Copland, Gershwin, Taligent — RoughlyDrafted Magazine Wed, 23 Apr 2008 06:49:51 +0000 http://www.roughlydrafted.com/2008/04/01/the-unavoidable-malware-myth-why-apple-wont-inherit-microsofts-malware-crown/#comment-7680 [...] Five Factors Shifting the Future of Malware and Platform Security The Unavoidable Malware Myth: Why Apple Won’t Inherit Microsoft’s Malware Crown [...] [...] Five Factors Shifting the Future of Malware and Platform Security The Unavoidable Malware Myth: Why Apple Won’t Inherit Microsoft’s Malware Crown [...]

]]> By: Guardian of the Non Sequitur » The Unavoidable Malware Myth http://www.roughlydrafted.com/2008/04/01/the-unavoidable-malware-myth-why-apple-wont-inherit-microsofts-malware-crown/#comment-6997 Guardian of the Non Sequitur » The Unavoidable Malware Myth Thu, 03 Apr 2008 11:02:39 +0000 http://www.roughlydrafted.com/2008/04/01/the-unavoidable-malware-myth-why-apple-wont-inherit-microsofts-malware-crown/#comment-6997 [...] The Unavoidable Malware Myth, roughlydrafted.com [...] [...] The Unavoidable Malware Myth, roughlydrafted.com [...]

]]> By: bigcasino http://www.roughlydrafted.com/2008/04/01/the-unavoidable-malware-myth-why-apple-wont-inherit-microsofts-malware-crown/#comment-6971 bigcasino Wed, 02 Apr 2008 19:01:48 +0000 http://www.roughlydrafted.com/2008/04/01/the-unavoidable-malware-myth-why-apple-wont-inherit-microsofts-malware-crown/#comment-6971 The people most likely to continue to claim that the lack of viruses on Macs is due to market share are IT specialists. Please tell me how an IT specialist can make money if the computers he/she services are virus free. Folks this is where it is all "at." It is an IT specialist job protection racket. Had a Mac for 27 years. Never had virus protection, never had a virus. Do not need an IT specialist. The people most likely to continue to claim that the lack of viruses on Macs is due to market share are IT specialists. Please tell me how an IT specialist can make money if the computers he/she services are virus free. Folks this is where it is all “at.” It is an IT specialist job protection racket. Had a Mac for 27 years. Never had virus protection, never had a virus. Do not need an IT specialist.

]]> By: retnuh http://www.roughlydrafted.com/2008/04/01/the-unavoidable-malware-myth-why-apple-wont-inherit-microsofts-malware-crown/#comment-6963 retnuh Wed, 02 Apr 2008 17:36:19 +0000 http://www.roughlydrafted.com/2008/04/01/the-unavoidable-malware-myth-why-apple-wont-inherit-microsofts-malware-crown/#comment-6963 @ Ephilei: Besides that there's the entire windows consulting industry that mainly exists to support something broken. I'd bet general pc tech support is the #1 most frequently used service next to custom software development and its services, in the windows IT industry. There's a lot of money there that won't want to go away, and will fight against it except for those that can reinvent their services into something useful. The problem is things have gone on for so long that enough people are sick of it, so change is finally happening, hopefully more good change than not. There's a despair inc. poster that sums this up pretty well; "Consulting: If you're not part of the solution, there's good money to be made in prolonging the problem." @ Ephilei:

Besides that there’s the entire windows consulting industry that mainly exists to support something broken. I’d bet general pc tech support is the #1 most frequently used service next to custom software development and its services, in the windows IT industry. There’s a lot of money there that won’t want to go away, and will fight against it except for those that can reinvent their services into something useful. The problem is things have gone on for so long that enough people are sick of it, so change is finally happening, hopefully more good change than not. There’s a despair inc. poster that sums this up pretty well; “Consulting: If you’re not part of the solution, there’s good money to be made in prolonging the problem.”

]]> By: Ephilei http://www.roughlydrafted.com/2008/04/01/the-unavoidable-malware-myth-why-apple-wont-inherit-microsofts-malware-crown/#comment-6961 Ephilei Wed, 02 Apr 2008 17:07:48 +0000 http://www.roughlydrafted.com/2008/04/01/the-unavoidable-malware-myth-why-apple-wont-inherit-microsofts-malware-crown/#comment-6961 I don't know if MS realizes this, but malware has sold licenses. I know multiple Windows users who said, "my computer was got really slow with lots of popups so I bought a new one" and computer and license go into the trash. It's the same old practice of "sell cheap, sell often." I don’t know if MS realizes this, but malware has sold licenses. I know multiple Windows users who said, “my computer was got really slow with lots of popups so I bought a new one” and computer and license go into the trash. It’s the same old practice of “sell cheap, sell often.”

]]> By: retnuh http://www.roughlydrafted.com/2008/04/01/the-unavoidable-malware-myth-why-apple-wont-inherit-microsofts-malware-crown/#comment-6949 retnuh Wed, 02 Apr 2008 15:15:56 +0000 http://www.roughlydrafted.com/2008/04/01/the-unavoidable-malware-myth-why-apple-wont-inherit-microsofts-malware-crown/#comment-6949 @info-dave: "So I still don’t know where we stand, but I’m going to blame ActiveX. Not that I have a clue…" ActiveX would be one of serveral reasons, basically its a problem of "always run everything" which has been a basic assumption of DOS & Windows until now. Its always been more important to just run from a business perspective than to introduce barriers. Now MS is trying to fix a problem that goes against its very nature. Think about it, how many extensions can execute or contain valid execution code, why did Outlook run scripts without asking, etc...? I'm not sure if they were trying to do a "its just works" in a "in just runs" kind of way, but they seriously got caught off guard by people with bad intensions. Also I think their need to integrate has worked against them as well, with so many technologies designed to layer on top of each other, one OCX calling a DLL that runs an executable that talks to a service that relies on a SOAP call that needs ActiveX that needs COM so my excel file shows up in my email populated by live data because it'd be too much trouble for me to just open excel. @info-dave: “So I still don’t know where we stand, but I’m going to blame ActiveX. Not that I have a clue…”

ActiveX would be one of serveral reasons, basically its a problem of “always run everything” which has been a basic assumption of DOS & Windows until now. Its always been more important to just run from a business perspective than to introduce barriers. Now MS is trying to fix a problem that goes against its very nature. Think about it, how many extensions can execute or contain valid execution code, why did Outlook run scripts without asking, etc…? I’m not sure if they were trying to do a “its just works” in a “in just runs” kind of way, but they seriously got caught off guard by people with bad intensions. Also I think their need to integrate has worked against them as well, with so many technologies designed to layer on top of each other, one OCX calling a DLL that runs an executable that talks to a service that relies on a SOAP call that needs ActiveX that needs COM so my excel file shows up in my email populated by live data because it’d be too much trouble for me to just open excel.

]]> By: Joel http://www.roughlydrafted.com/2008/04/01/the-unavoidable-malware-myth-why-apple-wont-inherit-microsofts-malware-crown/#comment-6928 Joel Wed, 02 Apr 2008 10:36:21 +0000 http://www.roughlydrafted.com/2008/04/01/the-unavoidable-malware-myth-why-apple-wont-inherit-microsofts-malware-crown/#comment-6928 @ acidscan : "Social Engineering can do amazing things even with moderate knowledgeable users" -- if you can persuade a user to give a program execution rights, and then run it a root (and enter their password, etc) then we have a real problem with user education... @ acidscan : “Social Engineering can do amazing things even with moderate knowledgeable users” — if you can persuade a user to give a program execution rights, and then run it a root (and enter their password, etc) then we have a real problem with user education…

]]> By: Five Factors Shifting the Future of Malware and Platform Security — RoughlyDrafted Magazine http://www.roughlydrafted.com/2008/04/01/the-unavoidable-malware-myth-why-apple-wont-inherit-microsofts-malware-crown/#comment-6926 Five Factors Shifting the Future of Malware and Platform Security — RoughlyDrafted Magazine Wed, 02 Apr 2008 10:33:37 +0000 http://www.roughlydrafted.com/2008/04/01/the-unavoidable-malware-myth-why-apple-wont-inherit-microsofts-malware-crown/#comment-6926 [...] The Unavoidable Malware Myth: Why Apple Won’t Inherit Microsoft’s Malware Crown [...] [...] The Unavoidable Malware Myth: Why Apple Won’t Inherit Microsoft’s Malware Crown [...]

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