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	<title>Comments on: Symbiotic: What Apple Does for Open Source</title>
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	<description>Daniel Eran Dilger in San Francisco</description>
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		<title>By: How Apple Is Changing the PC Software World&#8230; Back &#8212; RoughlyDrafted Magazine</title>
		<link>http://www.roughlydrafted.com/2007/12/18/symbiotic-what-apple-does-for-open-source/comment-page-1/#comment-12795</link>
		<dc:creator>How Apple Is Changing the PC Software World&#8230; Back &#8212; RoughlyDrafted Magazine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Sep 2008 09:34:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Microsoft&#8217;s Unwinnable War on Linux and Open Source Symbiotic: What Apple Does for Open Source [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Promenade &#187; Blog Archive &#187; How Apple Is Changing the PC Software World… Back</title>
		<link>http://www.roughlydrafted.com/2007/12/18/symbiotic-what-apple-does-for-open-source/comment-page-1/#comment-12549</link>
		<dc:creator>Promenade &#187; Blog Archive &#187; How Apple Is Changing the PC Software World… Back</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Sep 2008 13:15:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Symbiotic: What Apple Does for Open Source [...]</description>
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		<title>By: 451 CAOS Theory &#187; 451 CAOS Links - 2007.12.19</title>
		<link>http://www.roughlydrafted.com/2007/12/18/symbiotic-what-apple-does-for-open-source/comment-page-1/#comment-9133</link>
		<dc:creator>451 CAOS Theory &#187; 451 CAOS Links - 2007.12.19</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Jun 2008 10:37:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Symbiotic: What Apple Does for Open Source, RoughlyDrafted Magazine, Daniel Eran Dilger (Blog) [...]</description>
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		<title>By: dmwilliams</title>
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		<dc:creator>dmwilliams</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Jan 2008 19:49:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Here&#039;s another for the list of FOSS contributions:  Apple contributed multi-threading to Java which has turned out to be a huge deal application server realm.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here&#8217;s another for the list of FOSS contributions:  Apple contributed multi-threading to Java which has turned out to be a huge deal application server realm.</p>
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		<title>By: Vista vs Mac OS X Security: Why George Ou&#8217;s ZDNet Vulnerability Numerology is Absurd &#8212; RoughlyDrafted Magazine</title>
		<link>http://www.roughlydrafted.com/2007/12/18/symbiotic-what-apple-does-for-open-source/comment-page-1/#comment-2815</link>
		<dc:creator>Vista vs Mac OS X Security: Why George Ou&#8217;s ZDNet Vulnerability Numerology is Absurd &#8212; RoughlyDrafted Magazine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Dec 2007 04:34:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Symbiotic: What Apple Does for Open Source Apple&#8217;s Open Source Assault Microsoft&#8217;s Unwinnable War on Linux and Open Source Bill Gates and Bugs. Open source is about progress, and making progress involves being aware of your own mistakes. Microsoft is about profits. That&#8217;s why Bill Gates famously told Focus magazine back in 1995: “The reason we come up with new versions is not to fix bugs. It’s absolutely not. It’s the stupidest reason to buy a new version I ever heard. When we do a new version we put in lots of new things that people are asking for. And so, in no sense, is stability a reason to move to a new version. It’s never a reason.” [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Symbiotic: What Apple Does for Open Source Apple&#8217;s Open Source Assault Microsoft&#8217;s Unwinnable War on Linux and Open Source Bill Gates and Bugs. Open source is about progress, and making progress involves being aware of your own mistakes. Microsoft is about profits. That&#8217;s why Bill Gates famously told Focus magazine back in 1995: “The reason we come up with new versions is not to fix bugs. It’s absolutely not. It’s the stupidest reason to buy a new version I ever heard. When we do a new version we put in lots of new things that people are asking for. And so, in no sense, is stability a reason to move to a new version. It’s never a reason.” [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Sqe</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sqe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Dec 2007 16:31:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What a nice article.I really enjoy these articles from your  writing style.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What a nice article.I really enjoy these articles from your  writing style.</p>
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		<title>By: nat</title>
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		<dc:creator>nat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Dec 2007 02:20:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I had been wondering just how much Apple gives back to open source.  Really enjoying these unique, but understandable topics.  He&#039;s on a roll.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I had been wondering just how much Apple gives back to open source.  Really enjoying these unique, but understandable topics.  He&#8217;s on a roll.</p>
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		<title>By: HG</title>
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		<dc:creator>HG</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Dec 2007 18:46:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Didn&#039;t want anyone overlooking CUPS either.

Apple had been very involved with its development prior to their acquisition of the code base.  And now they&#039;re even more involved.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Didn&#8217;t want anyone overlooking CUPS either.</p>
<p>Apple had been very involved with its development prior to their acquisition of the code base.  And now they&#8217;re even more involved.</p>
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		<title>By: Jon T</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jon T</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Dec 2007 10:45:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Off topic: Dan, I often have to come back to read your articles when I don&#039;t have interruptions and can concentrate! What I would love to see, is a short &#039;executive summary&#039; of the article at the top, with say just the bullet points of the main points. 

This might also have the positive effect of enabling other bloggers to pick up on, quote and and recommend RDM to others...

Just a thought.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Off topic: Dan, I often have to come back to read your articles when I don&#8217;t have interruptions and can concentrate! What I would love to see, is a short &#8216;executive summary&#8217; of the article at the top, with say just the bullet points of the main points. </p>
<p>This might also have the positive effect of enabling other bloggers to pick up on, quote and and recommend RDM to others&#8230;</p>
<p>Just a thought.</p>
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		<title>By: danieleran</title>
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		<dc:creator>danieleran</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Dec 2007 09:30:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Rendezvous (now Bonjour) and is both an open spec and Apple offers an open source implementation. 

Other things Apple has opened up have been &quot;hey take it, please&quot; kind of stuff, from Darwin Streaming Server to NetInfo and launchd. It seems unlikely that anyone in FOSS would be likely to actually add launchd to their OS. It seems it was opened largely for the benefit of Mac developers, as is the case with Darwin in general. The fact that Apple is offering some of its core OS tech for free is pretty progressive though. 

Darwin Streaming Server &amp; Calendar Server are pretty significant new products to be opened for outside use in order to foster open standards adoption.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rendezvous (now Bonjour) and is both an open spec and Apple offers an open source implementation. </p>
<p>Other things Apple has opened up have been &#8220;hey take it, please&#8221; kind of stuff, from Darwin Streaming Server to NetInfo and launchd. It seems unlikely that anyone in FOSS would be likely to actually add launchd to their OS. It seems it was opened largely for the benefit of Mac developers, as is the case with Darwin in general. The fact that Apple is offering some of its core OS tech for free is pretty progressive though. </p>
<p>Darwin Streaming Server &#038; Calendar Server are pretty significant new products to be opened for outside use in order to foster open standards adoption.</p>
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