Again, for I don’t know how many times, nothing I have said or done has been in the slightest way Anti-American. I am not the NYT by the way. I really have no concept why you keep suggesting this. This is from your fantasy, not reality. I am not socialist or really at all leftist. I just want the truth from government.

“Jamie Gorlick created the “Wall” that kept the CIA and the FBI from talking to each other about intelligence cases. The Church Commission and FISA was an “easy on terrorists” campaign that contributed to 9/11.”

If the Bush administration did not like it they could have changed the policy. If they had convened a group to try to fight Al Queda before 9/11 as they should have they might have recognized the problem and taken steps the get the departments talking - but they didn’t.

Are you forgetting the real abuses of power that happened under Nixon that warranted the creation of the FISA court?

Personally I think that creating a bogus impeachment of Clinton was quite a distraction for the President. Maybe he would have been better in a position to fight Al Queda if not for the constant baseless investigations and prosecutions all at the hands of partisan Republicans.

“Because you want to cut efforts, not increase them.”

I never argued for any cut. I have been saying all along that we needed more forces there.

“If you are paranoid about the government then you shackle the government’s hands when they try to protect this country.”

We need to be a country of laws and that includes our defense of the country. So yes the Administration should be compelled to use FISA and if they find cases where they find the rules are insufficient to collect the intelligence they need they should as soon as reasonably possible seek the proper authority from Congress, not simply ignore the laws and restrictions on them.

“Rumsfeld was one of the longest serving Secretary of Defense we have ever had. The average term is two years. It is delusive to think that the 2006 election caused his retirement.”

Well he did resign the next day. Good riddance to him. Length of term is meaningless if the President is weak on asking for accountability. Gates is much better from top to bottom. He has credibility.

The New York Times is not the same as the Democrats or people who are critical of our handling of the war.

“Colin Powell did not say he was duped.”
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2ZTLmOoPzjs

Oh here is another gem for you:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hOzEz9eGJM0&feature=related

I have already addressed those questions. What sort of fantasy do you live in? Of course the invasion of Kuwait was not justified and Iraq’s removal from Kuwait was justified.

I have no idea why you say that. Everything I have been arguing for would have helped our efforts there. Democrats have not cut funding of the troops, even Republicans now realize that pressure needed to be placed on the Administration to get the job done. It was the election of 2006 that forced Bush to can Rumsfeld and the change course and do the surge. Left to their own devices the Administration just was not taking the steps needed to get the job done. I am glad violence is going down now. Really, I think there is a chance we may need to keep forces in place longer than the spring but unfortunately because the Administration waited so long to take action, even if we wanted to maintain the surge we don’t now have the troops available to extend their stays. Blame whoever you like for that but your a fool to think that is the Democrats fault, its just simply not the case.

“Are many of the actions of the people on the Left disloyal and unAmerican? Absolutely. Why? Because they play into the hands of the terrorists.”

What actions of the left are you talking about? Criticism of the war?? Sorry but in a free society you have you live with that. People exercising their rights to speak out are not enemies of the state. Many of the actions of Bush do the same. Why don’t you stop vilifying people who just disagree with you.

“The problem here is that you can dish out the insults but you are not mature enough to take them.”

I have not dished out any insults, though they are certainly deserved.

“There are legitimate arguments against the Iraqi war. You Leftist never bring them up, so I did. The arguments that you Leftists tout are childish, boring and impractical.”

I am not a leftist. I am moderate. I have brought up many criticisms of the conduct of the war, but you wrongly dismiss them because of the source. When Powell says the same exact thing its reasonable. So why continue arguing with you.

What are you talking about? What actions have I taken?

I thought them quite delusive. They implied that the world would be perfect if only Al Gore had been elected President in 2000.

I had a simple response to the pictures that Daniel posted: that they reminded me of ’60’s Anti-war propaganda.

I thought them quite delusive. They implied that the world would be perfect if only Al Gore had no been elected President in 2000.

It was you Democrats who wanted to refight those old, dead issues. I merely replied. I tried to replace nonsense with reason. You weren’t having any of it.

You on the Left have an inability to reason. You cannot take evidence, combine it with logic, to construct a case. The next step is totally beyond you of testing that case against history to see if it is valid. You are not trained to do that, but worse, your sources of information in the Mainstream Media constantly lie to you. This makes you unhinged from reality.

It makes you unable to answer questions that conservatives ask of you. Questions such as ,”Where did the WMD go which the UN inspectors found in 1995?” Instead, you make the pretense that the WMD never existed. But you won’t answer the question of, “Then you are saying the UN Inspectors lied in 1995?”

Or If I make the case that the purpose of the Iraqi war was to salvage the credibility of the UN, “How do you respond?” Silence.

I am in a quandary myself over the war, I believe that the war is necessary and that it divides America’s enemies. But, I don’t want to save the UN. I want the UN to die as the worthless abuser of human freedom that it is.

There are many things that we could talk about, but I am not politically correct. Not even in a Conservative sense. I think for myself. That means that I disagree with people on the Right.

There are issues where I oppose President Bush.

I have not sold my soul to the National Review the way you have sold yours to the Mainstream Media. Or whoever does your thinking for you.

It would be quite permissible for Daniel to ask me to go away. He has not. Perhaps, Daniel should have asked that of both Roz and me. But, he did not.

He wanted to foist a lie upon his readers; that I had given up when I had not. He had already lied earlier to suggest that I constantly pestered him. Two or three emails is not pestering.

The things that Roz thought were insults were just the truth in some sense. Roz displayed great ignorance and had a delusive world view — Talk about your paranoid fantasies.

A person cannot ignore the consequences of their actions. If he acts to sabotage the Republicans and this also harms our war efforts and helps the enemy, why should he not put be placed on the enemy’s side?

That is the difference between a loyal and a disloyal opposition. A loyal opposition will not harm America just to get at the Republicans.

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I have nothing against Daniel. I have stated that he make sense when talking about technical subjects. His politics just make no sense.

There are legitimate arguments against the Iraqi war, but you Leftists never bring them up. I tried to get a discussion going on them, but Roz wasn’t taking.

The reason that I suspected Daniel might be Roz, in disguise, is that I can’t see Daniel keeping out of the fray. But doing so openly would place his reputation in jeopardy, as if censoring my posts did not.

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Why are you involving yourself in this, Encolpius? Why should you interfere when Daniel does not? Why is this any of your business?

Your opinion is worthless, Encolpius, because you have made no arguments. We merely disagree.

You are a propagandist, too. You don’t want me to have my say because less committed Leftists, than yourself, might agree with my arguments. I am not paranoid because I fear no one. Nor do I conspire with anyone. I merely disagree with the talking points of the Mainstream Media.

If you don’t like free speech, then don’t listen. What makes you a propagandist is that you want to prevent other people from listening.