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	<title>Comments on: 10 iPod vs. Zune Myths</title>
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		<title>By: burningmice</title>
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		<dc:creator>burningmice</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Nov 2008 01:33:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This article is bullshit. You obviously never touched a zune idiot.

&lt;em&gt;[Dear Hotmail user: please reference my in depth reviews where I spell out in greater detail why the Zune hardware and software are so terrible (and yes, there is a photo of my hand holding a Zune). You might also be interested in the marketing reasons why the Zune failed miserably:

&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.roughlydrafted.com/2007/12/03/winter-2007-buyers-guide-microsoft-zune-8-vs-ipod-nano/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Winter 2007 Buyer’s Guide: Microsoft Zune 8 vs iPod Nano&lt;/a&gt;

&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.roughlydrafted.com/2008/05/09/zune-sales-still-in-the-toilet/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Zune Sales Still In the Toilet&lt;/a&gt;

&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&amp;q=site%3Aroughlydrafted.com+zune&amp;btnG=Search&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Google &#039;Zune&#039; on RDM&lt;/a&gt; ]&lt;/em&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This article is bullshit. You obviously never touched a zune idiot.</p>
<p><em>[Dear Hotmail user: please reference my in depth reviews where I spell out in greater detail why the Zune hardware and software are so terrible (and yes, there is a photo of my hand holding a Zune). You might also be interested in the marketing reasons why the Zune failed miserably:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.roughlydrafted.com/2007/12/03/winter-2007-buyers-guide-microsoft-zune-8-vs-ipod-nano/" rel="nofollow">Winter 2007 Buyer’s Guide: Microsoft Zune 8 vs iPod Nano</a></p>
<p><a href="http://www.roughlydrafted.com/2008/05/09/zune-sales-still-in-the-toilet/" rel="nofollow">Zune Sales Still In the Toilet</a></p>
<p><a href="http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&#038;q=site%3Aroughlydrafted.com+zune&#038;btnG=Search" rel="nofollow">Google 'Zune' on RDM</a> ]</em></p>
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		<title>By: WordOfMouth</title>
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		<dc:creator>WordOfMouth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 24 Aug 2008 01:07:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You say you have &quot;touched&quot; a Zune but I&#039;ll give you a little hint you have to actually turn it on if your going to give a fair review. And you are obviously in love with your iPod there buddy. I had an iPod and I currently have a Zune now and I&#039;m never going back. The sound quality is MUCH better and who cares about the games if I&#039;m not mistaken they we&#039;re aimed at a YOUNGER audience like say teenagers. And the screen is just fine for me as is the quality and the videos. I like the sharing feature. Who cares about the only listening to a song three times deal. The object is to request a song to a friend and see if they WANT to buy it for themselves. Oh I forgot the scroll bar :O Oh no so I guess the iPod must be better because of it but I don&#039;t think so. The newest Zune actually has a feature similar to the scroll circle. And the radio can come in handy if you get tired of the songs you have. Oh and I forgot to mention that the device can actually tell the weather as well now. So forgive me if I am out o place and I realize some people may not agree but the Zune in my opinion is FAR better than ANY iPod.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You say you have &#8220;touched&#8221; a Zune but I&#8217;ll give you a little hint you have to actually turn it on if your going to give a fair review. And you are obviously in love with your iPod there buddy. I had an iPod and I currently have a Zune now and I&#8217;m never going back. The sound quality is MUCH better and who cares about the games if I&#8217;m not mistaken they we&#8217;re aimed at a YOUNGER audience like say teenagers. And the screen is just fine for me as is the quality and the videos. I like the sharing feature. Who cares about the only listening to a song three times deal. The object is to request a song to a friend and see if they WANT to buy it for themselves. Oh I forgot the scroll bar :O Oh no so I guess the iPod must be better because of it but I don&#8217;t think so. The newest Zune actually has a feature similar to the scroll circle. And the radio can come in handy if you get tired of the songs you have. Oh and I forgot to mention that the device can actually tell the weather as well now. So forgive me if I am out o place and I realize some people may not agree but the Zune in my opinion is FAR better than ANY iPod.</p>
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		<title>By: Stephen_Neri</title>
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		<dc:creator>Stephen_Neri</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Jul 2008 08:49:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well I have been a big ipod fan from the start. i got my first ipod wich was a nano and loved it. i kept getting news ones cause it would just wear out a lot cause thats what the track wheel does or i would give them away cause im just like that. I needed a new one and i went to walmart to get a new ipod touch ( wich has wifi by the way) i wanted something with more than 16gb of music so i was like this is perfect the 80GB ipod. but then i saw the Zune and i had heard a lot about them. it looked kinda big but it was still nice and small enough to fit in my pocket. it was also lighter than the ipod so that was nice too. i knew how to use the ipod very well and i didnt know anything about the zune. but i also likes the fact you could tranfers songs over rom zune to zune. so i was stuck until my cousin said just try out the zune and if you dont like ti return it and get the ipod because they were both the same price for the 80gb zune and the 80gb ipod. so i got the zune and as soon as i got home i had to install zune onto my coputer as you would have to get itunes if you didnt have it. but as soon as it opend up it imported all my songs fro itunes into zune with saved me hours of time. the zune also can connect through my router to my pc wich was also nice. the zune does have podcast and it also have frnds contacts games and a lot of things you say it doesnt. it has a great scrolling system in it and it wont wear out a quick as the ipod. over all i have used the ipod for 4 years now and i havused the zune for 4 days and i have switched over. i dont think i will ever go back to the ipod because the zune just has more to offer and is a lot better. i like you input on it but just make sure you stay up ti dat with things. but for me and for a lot of other people i have showed my new zune to they all agree its way better. thats just the fact that it is :D</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well I have been a big ipod fan from the start. i got my first ipod wich was a nano and loved it. i kept getting news ones cause it would just wear out a lot cause thats what the track wheel does or i would give them away cause im just like that. I needed a new one and i went to walmart to get a new ipod touch ( wich has wifi by the way) i wanted something with more than 16gb of music so i was like this is perfect the 80GB ipod. but then i saw the Zune and i had heard a lot about them. it looked kinda big but it was still nice and small enough to fit in my pocket. it was also lighter than the ipod so that was nice too. i knew how to use the ipod very well and i didnt know anything about the zune. but i also likes the fact you could tranfers songs over rom zune to zune. so i was stuck until my cousin said just try out the zune and if you dont like ti return it and get the ipod because they were both the same price for the 80gb zune and the 80gb ipod. so i got the zune and as soon as i got home i had to install zune onto my coputer as you would have to get itunes if you didnt have it. but as soon as it opend up it imported all my songs fro itunes into zune with saved me hours of time. the zune also can connect through my router to my pc wich was also nice. the zune does have podcast and it also have frnds contacts games and a lot of things you say it doesnt. it has a great scrolling system in it and it wont wear out a quick as the ipod. over all i have used the ipod for 4 years now and i havused the zune for 4 days and i have switched over. i dont think i will ever go back to the ipod because the zune just has more to offer and is a lot better. i like you input on it but just make sure you stay up ti dat with things. but for me and for a lot of other people i have showed my new zune to they all agree its way better. thats just the fact that it is :D</p>
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		<title>By: mr_collin101</title>
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		<dc:creator>mr_collin101</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Jun 2008 16:34:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Lets forget about the fact that you are obviously in love with you brick of an iPod, or the fact that Zune sales are increasing and nearing the 1 million mark. Besides all of that the shit you say in your article is ignorant and untrue. the first day i had my Zune it played videos in a bright and smooth display. And i much prefer the precision of the click buttons to the novelty of the spinwheel on an iPod. in conclusion ot is never going to come down to actual facts on which is better, it is just a preference of some people to never want to change. so you will allways stick to your iggnorant opinions and i will watch my 3.5in screen on my slimmer Zune 80gb.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lets forget about the fact that you are obviously in love with you brick of an iPod, or the fact that Zune sales are increasing and nearing the 1 million mark. Besides all of that the shit you say in your article is ignorant and untrue. the first day i had my Zune it played videos in a bright and smooth display. And i much prefer the precision of the click buttons to the novelty of the spinwheel on an iPod. in conclusion ot is never going to come down to actual facts on which is better, it is just a preference of some people to never want to change. so you will allways stick to your iggnorant opinions and i will watch my 3.5in screen on my slimmer Zune 80gb.</p>
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		<title>By: k0wag</title>
		<link>http://www.roughlydrafted.com/2006/10/03/10-ipod-vs-zune-myths/comment-page-1/#comment-9870</link>
		<dc:creator>k0wag</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Jun 2008 21:19:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ok. So I have noticed that you are bias to the iPod. Why didnt you say that in the first place. I can honestly say that yes I am bias to the Zune. I have owned 3 different iPods and 1 Zune. I will say that I will never go back to an iPod. Yeah the iPod has given me joy with the games but you know my phone also has games like some one else has mentioned. I used the Zune more then I have ever used an iPod. Then again it all depends on what you want in an MP3 player for which is better. I just wish that you would have stated your points and had more info on both sides instead of just one.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ok. So I have noticed that you are bias to the iPod. Why didnt you say that in the first place. I can honestly say that yes I am bias to the Zune. I have owned 3 different iPods and 1 Zune. I will say that I will never go back to an iPod. Yeah the iPod has given me joy with the games but you know my phone also has games like some one else has mentioned. I used the Zune more then I have ever used an iPod. Then again it all depends on what you want in an MP3 player for which is better. I just wish that you would have stated your points and had more info on both sides instead of just one.</p>
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		<title>By: fucking-idiot</title>
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		<dc:creator>fucking-idiot</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Feb 2008 19:14:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>ok your are a stupid piece of shit that should die. obviously from what i have read you have never even used a zune.  I own both an ipod video and a Zune. i use the Zune every day.  I gave my ipod to my brother because it was collecting dust. ok for one The zunes screen is way bigger, the colors are brilliant. everyone that i know that has an iPod and has seen my zune and used it wants to go out and buy one. i even have the old 30g. the newer ones are skinnier, smaller and even better. yeah ipod has zune beat with the touch. i plan on buying one soon. but with only 8-16g of memory i will still be using my zune. i have almost filled this thing up. but honestly dont take the time to make this fucking article if you dont know shit about the zune. please do us all a favor and shoot yourself or just never use a computer again. you fucking idiot</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ok your are a stupid piece of shit that should die. obviously from what i have read you have never even used a zune.  I own both an ipod video and a Zune. i use the Zune every day.  I gave my ipod to my brother because it was collecting dust. ok for one The zunes screen is way bigger, the colors are brilliant. everyone that i know that has an iPod and has seen my zune and used it wants to go out and buy one. i even have the old 30g. the newer ones are skinnier, smaller and even better. yeah ipod has zune beat with the touch. i plan on buying one soon. but with only 8-16g of memory i will still be using my zune. i have almost filled this thing up. but honestly dont take the time to make this fucking article if you dont know shit about the zune. please do us all a favor and shoot yourself or just never use a computer again. you fucking idiot</p>
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		<title>By: does_it_reeally_matter</title>
		<link>http://www.roughlydrafted.com/2006/10/03/10-ipod-vs-zune-myths/comment-page-1/#comment-4103</link>
		<dc:creator>does_it_reeally_matter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Jan 2008 18:48:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>alright...you claim that all peeps who talk about zune do is &quot;astroturf&quot;? well what is this entire article then, i do not kno how many times i have read these same points.  we get it zunes do not have a calender that can have tasks, phonebook,  or games.  damn! thank god everybody on earth has a cell phone that does all that.  all those shitty ass programs do is take up space, so i can have less music on it. please bash on microsoft some more, i love reading &quot;astroturf&quot;complains

[It&#039;s not that &quot;all peeps&quot; who talk about the Zune are astroturfing, but rather that Microsoft set up a series of fake sites to suggest interest among real people, when there really was none. - Dan]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>alright&#8230;you claim that all peeps who talk about zune do is &#8220;astroturf&#8221;? well what is this entire article then, i do not kno how many times i have read these same points.  we get it zunes do not have a calender that can have tasks, phonebook,  or games.  damn! thank god everybody on earth has a cell phone that does all that.  all those shitty ass programs do is take up space, so i can have less music on it. please bash on microsoft some more, i love reading &#8220;astroturf&#8221;complains</p>
<p>[It's not that "all peeps" who talk about the Zune are astroturfing, but rather that Microsoft set up a series of fake sites to suggest interest among real people, when there really was none. - Dan]</p>
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		<title>By: iPod Loyalty &#171; Look Sharp</title>
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		<dc:creator>iPod Loyalty &#171; Look Sharp</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Jan 2008 18:33:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] iPod Nano, I have noticed that people who use iPods usually never make a switch to any others like Microsoft&#8217;s Zune, or Creatives, no matter how many great reviews these products receive. Surely, other brands have [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] iPod Nano, I have noticed that people who use iPods usually never make a switch to any others like Microsoft&#8217;s Zune, or Creatives, no matter how many great reviews these products receive. Surely, other brands have [...]</p>
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		<title>By: rjaii7522</title>
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		<dc:creator>rjaii7522</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Jan 2008 18:21:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Okay Danny Boy...you can&#039;t compare comparing iPods to Zunes like comparing PC&#039;s to Macs.  We are talking about an operating system.  PC&#039;s run the gamut.  Just because a Dell user has Windows, do we say that everyone has a Dell?  What about HP, or Toshiba?  Each has it&#039;s own strenghts and weaknesses.  To my knowledge, Microsoft doesn&#039;t make any computers.  Apple makes an OS and the computers that run their OS.  Don&#039;t blame Micorsoft for hardware issues when it comes to PC and you can&#039;t blame Microsoft for some of the issues that some PC&#039;s have.  3rd party software can hose a system better than a buggy OS.  But anyway...because most everyone has a PC (HP, Dell, Toshiba, Gateway - whatever) and all of these have Windows, things are more compatible.  What good is an &quot;Apple only&quot; device if you are the only one that can use it or get anything out of it?  Until Apple has the market share of people using their toy like OS, AND if they topple guys like IBM, then we&#039;ll talk.  Until then, you can keep the forbidden fruit to yourself.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Okay Danny Boy&#8230;you can&#8217;t compare comparing iPods to Zunes like comparing PC&#8217;s to Macs.  We are talking about an operating system.  PC&#8217;s run the gamut.  Just because a Dell user has Windows, do we say that everyone has a Dell?  What about HP, or Toshiba?  Each has it&#8217;s own strenghts and weaknesses.  To my knowledge, Microsoft doesn&#8217;t make any computers.  Apple makes an OS and the computers that run their OS.  Don&#8217;t blame Micorsoft for hardware issues when it comes to PC and you can&#8217;t blame Microsoft for some of the issues that some PC&#8217;s have.  3rd party software can hose a system better than a buggy OS.  But anyway&#8230;because most everyone has a PC (HP, Dell, Toshiba, Gateway &#8211; whatever) and all of these have Windows, things are more compatible.  What good is an &#8220;Apple only&#8221; device if you are the only one that can use it or get anything out of it?  Until Apple has the market share of people using their toy like OS, AND if they topple guys like IBM, then we&#8217;ll talk.  Until then, you can keep the forbidden fruit to yourself.</p>
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		<title>By: diamondmask</title>
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		<dc:creator>diamondmask</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Dec 2007 22:21:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Have you thought of updating your &quot;comparison&quot; since it was written long before the 2nd generation of Zune was released? 

Myself, I couldn&#039;t care less about the WiFi or the sharing.  I do care about sound quality.  The video also isn&#039;t high on my list, but being able to show photos on a bigger screen certainly is. 

I&#039;m leaning towards the Zune because of the screen size and recent comments from unbiased sources that really like the navigation of the new Zunes.  They like the feel of the wheel and the unit as a whole. 

At some point, one of them will come out with a unit that plays stellar video, big screen size and a decent battery life.

And besides EVERYBODY has a freakin&#039; iPod.  

I don&#039;t see the point of much of the 3rd party accessories for the iPod.  All most people I know need are a docking station, a case, able to use it in a car, a charger, and good earphones. 

The rest is fluff.

[The article links to the more recent Buyer&#039;s Guide that specifically compared the Flash Zunes with the Nanos, but also includes notes on the HD based models and the Touch. Does the fact that &quot;everyone has a PC&quot; make you want to get a Mac, or does that line of reasoning only apply when talking about Microsoft&#039;s inferior player? You sound suspiciously like a talking points robot. - Dan]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Have you thought of updating your &#8220;comparison&#8221; since it was written long before the 2nd generation of Zune was released? </p>
<p>Myself, I couldn&#8217;t care less about the WiFi or the sharing.  I do care about sound quality.  The video also isn&#8217;t high on my list, but being able to show photos on a bigger screen certainly is. </p>
<p>I&#8217;m leaning towards the Zune because of the screen size and recent comments from unbiased sources that really like the navigation of the new Zunes.  They like the feel of the wheel and the unit as a whole. </p>
<p>At some point, one of them will come out with a unit that plays stellar video, big screen size and a decent battery life.</p>
<p>And besides EVERYBODY has a freakin&#8217; iPod.  </p>
<p>I don&#8217;t see the point of much of the 3rd party accessories for the iPod.  All most people I know need are a docking station, a case, able to use it in a car, a charger, and good earphones. </p>
<p>The rest is fluff.</p>
<p>[The article links to the more recent Buyer's Guide that specifically compared the Flash Zunes with the Nanos, but also includes notes on the HD based models and the Touch. Does the fact that "everyone has a PC" make you want to get a Mac, or does that line of reasoning only apply when talking about Microsoft's inferior player? You sound suspiciously like a talking points robot. - Dan]</p>
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